Your Views: Is Malcolm Chaston's sentence fair?
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GOOD GRIEF
4:00PM Monday April 18, 2011
By Kerre ohoWmad
4:00PM Monday April 18, 2011
By Kerre ohoWmad
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Your Views: Is Malcolm Chaston's sentence fair?
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I've spoken on air about Vanessa Pickering and Malcolm Chaston, and I
won't cover the issues again. But I would like to ask Vanessa's mum,
Rachel, to take the passion and pain she's feeling right now and use
it for good.
She says that she feels like Chaston is an "animal"; in fact, not to
put too fine a point on it, she has come across as quite depressed and
angry.
put too fine a point on it, she has come across as quite depressed and
angry.
That anger is being felt - and articulated - by the rest of Vanessa's
family and friends, with one woman---who called herself a "family
spokesperson"---on the tele tonight saying she'd like Chaston to be
tortured "every day for the rest of his life".
family and friends, with one woman---who called herself a "family
spokesperson"---on the tele tonight saying she'd like Chaston to be
tortured "every day for the rest of his life".
It will be up to the adults in that family to be strong and to support
Rachel so that her feelings of despair are a temporary response to the
pain she's feeling.
Rachel so that her feelings of despair are a temporary response to the
pain she's feeling.
And the adults must not allow the young ones to use Vanessa's death as
an excuse for failure and violence. How is that honouring Vanessa's
life? Surely the most fitting tribute to her daughter would be for
Rachel to raise Vanessa's child, and make sure it turns into a
successful, well-adjusted kid whose memories of its mother will be
loving, not tainted with hate and bitterness for her killer.
an excuse for failure and violence. How is that honouring Vanessa's
life? Surely the most fitting tribute to her daughter would be for
Rachel to raise Vanessa's child, and make sure it turns into a
successful, well-adjusted kid whose memories of its mother will be
loving, not tainted with hate and bitterness for her killer.
Rachel feels she's let down her daughter - and no doubt every grieving
parent feels the same way.
parent feels the same way.
But unless she can manage to move on from her rage, she'll undoubtedly
let down her grandchild.
NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
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On Apr 19, 9:52 am, "Geopelia" <phildo...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> "NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad" <kerreohowmadnewstal...@
> in messagenews:5e0f340c-8114-
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> > GOOD GRIEF
> > 4:00PM Monday April 18, 2011
> > By Kerre ohoWmad
> > ******************************
> > Your Views: Is Malcolm Chaston's sentence fair?
> > ******************************
> > I've spoken on air about Vanessa Pickering and Malcolm Chaston, and I
> > won't cover the issues again. But I would like to ask Vanessa's mum,
> > Rachel, to take the passion and pain she's feeling right now and use
> > it for good.
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> > She says that she feels like Chaston is an "animal"; in fact, not to
> > put too fine a point on it, she has come across as quite depressed and
> > angry.
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> > That anger is being felt - and articulated - by the rest of Vanessa's
> > family and friends, with one woman---who called herself a "family
> > spokesperson"---on the tele tonight saying she'd like Chaston to be
> > tortured "every day for the rest of his life".
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> That can't be done - officially. But who knows what his fellow criminals
> will think up?
> "NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad" <kerreohowmadnewstal...@
> in messagenews:5e0f340c-8114-
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> > GOOD GRIEF
> > 4:00PM Monday April 18, 2011
> > By Kerre ohoWmad
> > ******************************
> > Your Views: Is Malcolm Chaston's sentence fair?
> > ******************************
> > I've spoken on air about Vanessa Pickering and Malcolm Chaston, and I
> > won't cover the issues again. But I would like to ask Vanessa's mum,
> > Rachel, to take the passion and pain she's feeling right now and use
> > it for good.
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> > She says that she feels like Chaston is an "animal"; in fact, not to
> > put too fine a point on it, she has come across as quite depressed and
> > angry.
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> > That anger is being felt - and articulated - by the rest of Vanessa's
> > family and friends, with one woman---who called herself a "family
> > spokesperson"---on the tele tonight saying she'd like Chaston to be
> > tortured "every day for the rest of his life".
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> That can't be done - officially. But who knows what his fellow criminals
> will think up?
Well, going by the way another knife maniac, Bruce Emery, was treated
by his fellow inmates, Chaston will be reviled and threatened
constantly.
by his fellow inmates, Chaston will be reviled and threatened
constantly.
By the way: is the Sensible Sentencing Trust supporting Chaston?
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On Apr 19, 8:18 pm, BR <bugger...@spammer.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Morrissey Breen
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> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Morrissey Breen
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> <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Well, going by the way another knife maniac, Bruce Emery, was treated
> >by his fellow inmates, Chaston will be reviled and threatened
> >constantly.
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> Pull your head in Mowissey. There is no moral equivalence between
> Emery and Chaston.
> >Well, going by the way another knife maniac, Bruce Emery, was treated
> >by his fellow inmates, Chaston will be reviled and threatened
> >constantly.
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> Pull your head in Mowissey. There is no moral equivalence between
> Emery and Chaston.
Oh that's right, I forgot. One brutally killed a Pakeha woman. That's
a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
Give my regards to your friends in the Sensible Sentencing Trust.
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On Apr 20, 9:55 am, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 8:18 pm, BR <bugger...@spammer.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 8:18 pm, BR <bugger...@spammer.com> wrote:
> > Pull your head in Mowissey. There is no moral equivalence between
> > Emery and Chaston.
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> Oh that's right, I forgot. One brutally killed a Pakeha woman. That's
> a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
> > Emery and Chaston.
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> Oh that's right, I forgot. One brutally killed a Pakeha woman. That's
> a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
And this, of course is what it's all about - the same old obsession.
Emery did not kill a Maori child. He killed an adolescent scumbag.
LW
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Perhaps Lyndon Watson <te...@clear.net.nz> has been sucking on some of
that Coromandel hydroponic:
that Coromandel hydroponic:
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Then who did kill Pihema Cameron? Even Emery admits he killed him.
Even Garth McVicious admits he killed him. Do you have some
information that the rest of the world is not privy to?
Even Garth McVicious admits he killed him. Do you have some
information that the rest of the world is not privy to?
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> He killed an adolescent scumbag.
> He killed an adolescent scumbag.
How do you know Vanessa Pickering was not a "scumbag"? Even if she
was, do you think she should have been killed for it?
was, do you think she should have been killed for it?
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On Apr 20, 1:56 pm, Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:44:28 -0700 (PDT), Morrissey Breen
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> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:44:28 -0700 (PDT), Morrissey Breen
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Actually, Rich, that's EXACTLY what Garth McVicar and the S.S. Trust
did to the reputation of Pihema Cameron.
did to the reputation of Pihema Cameron.
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> Ws there any other reason for your statement,
> Lyndon Watson?
> Ws there any other reason for your statement,
> Lyndon Watson?
Lyndon was only repeating what he heard day after day after day on
NewstalkZB. And from Garth McVicar.
NewstalkZB. And from Garth McVicar.
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On Apr 20, 6:00 pm, BR <bugger...@spammer.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:10:56 -0700 (PDT), Mo
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> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:10:56 -0700 (PDT), Mo
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> <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Actually, Rich, that's EXACTLY what Garth McVicar and the S.S. Trust
> >did to the reputation of Pihema Cameron.
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> What reputation did Cameron have other than deadbeat?
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> Bill.
> >Actually, Rich, that's EXACTLY what Garth McVicar and the S.S. Trust
> >did to the reputation of Pihema Cameron.
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> What reputation did Cameron have other than deadbeat?
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> Bill.
You moron, he was a child. He had any chance to make a reputation for
himself cut short by Emery's knife.
himself cut short by Emery's knife.
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To be fair to our good friend Lyndon, I think it was more a case of
thoughtlessness than anything else. I agree with you that, on this
occasion at least, he was a dupe, but judging by his posting history,
I think he has some degree of morality. Sadly absent on this occasion,
however.
thoughtlessness than anything else. I agree with you that, on this
occasion at least, he was a dupe, but judging by his posting history,
I think he has some degree of morality. Sadly absent on this occasion,
however.
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On Apr 20, 1:44 pm, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lyndon Watson <te...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 9:55 am, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lyndon Watson <te...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 9:55 am, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Oh that's right, I forgot. One brutally killed a Pakeha woman. That's
> > > a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
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> > And this, of course is what it's all about - the same old obsession.
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> > Emery did not kill a Maori child.
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> Then who did kill Pihema Cameron? Even Emery admits he killed him.
> > > a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
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> > And this, of course is what it's all about - the same old obsession.
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> > Emery did not kill a Maori child.
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> Then who did kill Pihema Cameron? Even Emery admits he killed him.
He was not a child.
> > He killed an adolescent scumbag.
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> How do you know Vanessa Pickering was not a "scumbag"? Even if she
> was, do you think she should have been killed for it?
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> How do you know Vanessa Pickering was not a "scumbag"? Even if she
> was, do you think she should have been killed for it?
Who knows? But we know that Cameron was, so naturally there is an
element of "good riddance" in the public attitude.
element of "good riddance" in the public attitude.
LW
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On Apr 20, 6:34 pm, Lyndon Watson <te...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 1:44 pm, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Lyndon Watson <te...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> > > On Apr 20, 9:55 am, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Oh that's right, I forgot. One brutally killed a Pakeha woman. That's
> > > > a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
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> > > And this, of course is what it's all about - the same old obsession.
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> > > Emery did not kill a Maori child.
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> > Then who did kill Pihema Cameron? Even Emery admits he killed him.
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> He was not a child.
> On Apr 20, 1:44 pm, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Lyndon Watson <te...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> > > On Apr 20, 9:55 am, Morrissey Breen <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Oh that's right, I forgot. One brutally killed a Pakeha woman. That's
> > > > a bad thing. The other killed a Maori child. That's a good thing.
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> > > And this, of course is what it's all about - the same old obsession.
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> > > Emery did not kill a Maori child.
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> > Then who did kill Pihema Cameron? Even Emery admits he killed him.
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> He was not a child.
Yes he was. As I thought, you are essentially clueless.
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> > > He killed an adolescent scumbag.
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> > How do you know Vanessa Pickering was not a "scumbag"? Even if she
> > was, do you think she should have been killed for it?
>
> Who knows?
> > > He killed an adolescent scumbag.
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> > How do you know Vanessa Pickering was not a "scumbag"? Even if she
> > was, do you think she should have been killed for it?
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> Who knows?
I certainly don't and I don't care. Are you going to start defaming
her next?
her next?
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> But we know that Cameron was,
> But we know that Cameron was,
No we do not. In fact, you know nothing about him other than what the
S.S. Trust and Emery's sleazy lawyer Chris Comeskey said, all of which
was dutifully repeated by NewstalkZB.
S.S. Trust and Emery's sleazy lawyer Chris Comeskey said, all of which
was dutifully repeated by NewstalkZB.
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> so naturally there is an
> element of "good riddance" in the public attitude.
> so naturally there is an
> element of "good riddance" in the public attitude.
Please don't try to say that the views of yourself and the S.S. Trust
are synonymous with the public.
are synonymous with the public.
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On Apr 20, 9:05 pm, BR <bugger...@spammer.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Morrissey Breen
> >You moron, he was a child. He had any chance to make a reputation for
> >himself cut short by Emery's knife.
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> You are trying to claim moral equivalence between the Emery case and
> the Chaston case. Such an idea is absurd, and only those with the
> meanest of intelligence would fail to understand that. If anyone
> around here is a moron, it is you. Just like Cameron, you have earned
> the reputation that befits you.
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Morrissey Breen
> >You moron, he was a child. He had any chance to make a reputation for
> >himself cut short by Emery's knife.
>
> You are trying to claim moral equivalence between the Emery case and
> the Chaston case. Such an idea is absurd, and only those with the
> meanest of intelligence would fail to understand that. If anyone
> around here is a moron, it is you. Just like Cameron, you have earned
> the reputation that befits you.
And he has descended to outright lying that Cameron was a child. It
was all a dishonest attempt to portray Emery as a child-killer and
therefore on a similar moral standing to Chaston.
was all a dishonest attempt to portray Emery as a child-killer and
therefore on a similar moral standing to Chaston.
I shouldn't think anyone but his fellow loons is fooled.
LW
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