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Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
by GIDEON LEVY
by GIDEON LEVY
It's late at night in Sodra, a fashionable suburb south of Stockholm,
and it's drinks all around. There's cheese from Italy and Scandinavian
fish on the table; and an extremely alert, diverse crowd is gathered
around the table. There's a well-known Swedish academic whose field of
expertise is the history of religion; a lecturer in economic history;
and there's also a young Iraqi who was imprisoned in Saddam Hussein's
era in Abu Ghraib prison and who now works in Sweden's supreme court.
and it's drinks all around. There's cheese from Italy and Scandinavian
fish on the table; and an extremely alert, diverse crowd is gathered
around the table. There's a well-known Swedish academic whose field of
expertise is the history of religion; a lecturer in economic history;
and there's also a young Iraqi who was imprisoned in Saddam Hussein's
era in Abu Ghraib prison and who now works in Sweden's supreme court.
The house belongs to a former Israeli, Dror Feiler, and this gathering
is the Swedish steering committee for the next Gaza flotilla. It is a
historic dwelling: In the 18th century, the house served as a beer
hall, and then later functioned as an institution for the mentally
ill. Hermann Goering convalesced here, at the insistence of his
Swedish wife, after becoming addicted to pain medication when wounded
during World War I; Vladimir Ilyich Lenin also stayed here, en route
to the Russian revolution (he is said to have purchased his famous cap
at a nearby street corner ). Now the musician and artist Feiler lives
here; after being deported from Israel last June as a result of the
first Gaza flotilla controversy, he is no longer allowed to visit his
aging mother on Kibbutz Yad Hanna.
is the Swedish steering committee for the next Gaza flotilla. It is a
historic dwelling: In the 18th century, the house served as a beer
hall, and then later functioned as an institution for the mentally
ill. Hermann Goering convalesced here, at the insistence of his
Swedish wife, after becoming addicted to pain medication when wounded
during World War I; Vladimir Ilyich Lenin also stayed here, en route
to the Russian revolution (he is said to have purchased his famous cap
at a nearby street corner ). Now the musician and artist Feiler lives
here; after being deported from Israel last June as a result of the
first Gaza flotilla controversy, he is no longer allowed to visit his
aging mother on Kibbutz Yad Hanna.
Feiler likes to reminisce about his days serving in the infantry's
50th Battalion, in the late 1960s. He shares his memories with members
of the Gaza flotilla. Prof. Mattias Gardell, who also took part in the
first flotilla, claims the first two casualties were killed before IDF
soldiers boarded the Mavi Marmara last May. They now wonder, in a mood
of naive fear, how Israel will relate to them this time. Together with
a Swedish-Jewish physician, the daughter of a Holocaust survivor from
Hungary who is married to publisher Dan Israel, the group is meeting
late at night to plan the next flotilla adventure. Whereas Israelis
are wont to describe the flotillas as a Turkish enterprise and a
threat, members of this group describe the flotilla as an
international, peace-oriented, project.
50th Battalion, in the late 1960s. He shares his memories with members
of the Gaza flotilla. Prof. Mattias Gardell, who also took part in the
first flotilla, claims the first two casualties were killed before IDF
soldiers boarded the Mavi Marmara last May. They now wonder, in a mood
of naive fear, how Israel will relate to them this time. Together with
a Swedish-Jewish physician, the daughter of a Holocaust survivor from
Hungary who is married to publisher Dan Israel, the group is meeting
late at night to plan the next flotilla adventure. Whereas Israelis
are wont to describe the flotillas as a Turkish enterprise and a
threat, members of this group describe the flotilla as an
international, peace-oriented, project.
It's impossible not to be impressed by this determined group. They
will convey 500 tons of cement, a mobile hospital and an ambulance on
their boat, one of ten planned for the flotilla. They know there are
other ways of bringing these items to Gaza, but they want to remind
the world of Gaza's fate. That is their right, and perhaps even their
duty.
will convey 500 tons of cement, a mobile hospital and an ambulance on
their boat, one of ten planned for the flotilla. They know there are
other ways of bringing these items to Gaza, but they want to remind
the world of Gaza's fate. That is their right, and perhaps even their
duty.
Had Israel not behaved with such wanton stupidity, and not attacked
the previous flotilla and allowed it to reach the Gaza coast, it's
possible that this new flotilla would not have mobilized - at any
event, the eyes of the world would not be peeled as they are now,
watching the flotilla closely.
the previous flotilla and allowed it to reach the Gaza coast, it's
possible that this new flotilla would not have mobilized - at any
event, the eyes of the world would not be peeled as they are now,
watching the flotilla closely.
I told members of the group that Israel is determined to attack. One
of them has already purchased a bulletproof vest. Israel well
understands that these are people are not threats, and that no weapons
will be smuggled on the boats. Nonetheless, Israel makes threats, and
the IDF naval commandos train for the flotilla's arrival. The result:
Requests to sail on the boats skyrocket, and the flotilla vessels will
be jam-packed.
of them has already purchased a bulletproof vest. Israel well
understands that these are people are not threats, and that no weapons
will be smuggled on the boats. Nonetheless, Israel makes threats, and
the IDF naval commandos train for the flotilla's arrival. The result:
Requests to sail on the boats skyrocket, and the flotilla vessels will
be jam-packed.
When you meet such people, you understand the terrible international
damage Israel inflicts upon itself as a result of its violent
behavior. How simple (and just ) it would be to allow these well-
intentioned people to reach their goal; in contrast, how idiotic,
violent and unnecessary it would be to release the commandos once
again, to go after them.
damage Israel inflicts upon itself as a result of its violent
behavior. How simple (and just ) it would be to allow these well-
intentioned people to reach their goal; in contrast, how idiotic,
violent and unnecessary it would be to release the commandos once
again, to go after them.
"A toast to the darkness that swooped on the ships ... Godspeed to the
small, wooden boats," the poet Nathan Alterman wrote in his "Response
to an Italian Captain," in praise of the ship that broke through the
British blockade and brought Jewish immigrants to Nahariya in 1945.
And let's have a toast to the Swedish (or Turkish ) captain, and for
the boats en route to Gaza, on a mission no less just; let's hope that
Israel will change its course and, for a change, surprise the world be
taking a wise step and allowing the ships' passengers to reach their
destination.
small, wooden boats," the poet Nathan Alterman wrote in his "Response
to an Italian Captain," in praise of the ship that broke through the
British blockade and brought Jewish immigrants to Nahariya in 1945.
And let's have a toast to the Swedish (or Turkish ) captain, and for
the boats en route to Gaza, on a mission no less just; let's hope that
Israel will change its course and, for a change, surprise the world be
taking a wise step and allowing the ships' passengers to reach their
destination.
Israel cannot be hurt by any imaginary danger the ships pose. Here
from Sweden, at a time when the sun does not set at night, comes a
final appeal to those who would block the flotilla: Please, just once,
act with prudence, and abide by international law and simple justice.
These people have the right to reach Gaza; Israel lacks the right to
stop them.
from Sweden, at a time when the sun does not set at night, comes a
final appeal to those who would block the flotilla: Please, just once,
act with prudence, and abide by international law and simple justice.
These people have the right to reach Gaza; Israel lacks the right to
stop them.
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> by GIDEON LEVY
news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@v11g2000prn.
> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> by GIDEON LEVY
Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
and arrest and prosecute every participant.
My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
http://www.memri.org/report/
and arrest and prosecute every participant.
My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
http://www.memri.org/report/
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Re: Gideon Levy: 'Israel' has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
wrote:
>"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@
>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>
>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> by GIDEON LEVY
>
>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@
>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>
>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> by GIDEON LEVY
>
>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
My guess is that Dershowitz is a jew asshole. No, it's more than a
guess.
guess.
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Re: Gideon Levy: 'Israel' has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
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Re: Gideon Levy: 'Israel' has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:13:19 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
<whate...@say.org> wrote:
<whate...@say.org> wrote:
>My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
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Re: Gideon Levy: 'Israel' has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
You can't "prove" I am black, or that I have a Johnson is my rectum. Happy
4th of July
back at you, and I am sorry I didn't wish you well during nigger history
month! LOL
4th of July
back at you, and I am sorry I didn't wish you well during nigger history
month! LOL
"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
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On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>
> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>
> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
the final line: “For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
the final line: “For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
IDF.
peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
IDF.
>
> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> <snipped>
> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> <snipped>
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Re: Gideon Levy: 'Israel' has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:19:40 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
<whate...@say.org> wrote:
<whate...@say.org> wrote:
>You can't "prove" I am black, or that I have a Johnson is my rectum.
I've already proved both. It's self evident, anyway.
>Happy 4th of July
>back at you, and I am sorry I didn't wish you well during nigger history
>month! LOL
>back at you, and I am sorry I didn't wish you well during nigger history
>month! LOL
Presumably because you were too busy celebrating it, coonboi.
>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>news:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:13:19 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
>> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>>
>>>My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
>>
>> I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
>> rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
>>
>>>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>>>news:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>>>>>ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@
>>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>>>>>> by GIDEON LEVY
>>>>>
>>>>>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>>>>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>>>>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that Dershowitz is a jew asshole. No, it's more than a
>>>> guess.
>news:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:13:19 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
>> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>>
>>>My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
>>
>> I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
>> rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
>>
>>>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>>>news:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>>>>>ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@
>>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>>>>>> by GIDEON LEVY
>>>>>
>>>>>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>>>>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>>>>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that Dershowitz is a jew asshole. No, it's more than a
>>>> guess.
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Re: Everyone Having Endless Fun with our Resident Psychopath, "The Rectum", AGAIN! LOL
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:07:05 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>
> My guess is that Dershowitz is a jew asshole. No, it's more than a
> guess.
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> wrote:
>>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>
> My guess is that Dershowitz is a jew asshole. No, it's more than a
> guess.
We KNOW that you are a degenerate perverted psychopathic asshole! No guess
about that! In fact, you even know it yourself! LOL
about that! In fact, you even know it yourself! LOL
--
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard (aka "The Rectum").
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard (aka "The Rectum").
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Re: Everyone Having Endless Fun with our Resident Psychopath, "The Rectum", AGAIN! LOL
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:16:04 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>
> I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
> rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>>My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
>
> I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
> rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
No, The Rectum: you *know* that you are miserable psychopathic asshole and a
ridiculous housebound sexual cripple with no life outside Usenet AT ALL. In
fact, EVERYONE around here knows it. ...and you know that everyone knows
about it! You just can't do anything about it! It's a hoot! LOL
ridiculous housebound sexual cripple with no life outside Usenet AT ALL. In
fact, EVERYONE around here knows it. ...and you know that everyone knows
about it! You just can't do anything about it! It's a hoot! LOL
--
The top 5 truths about our resident psychopath, The Rectum:
The top 5 truths about our resident psychopath, The Rectum:
the desperate psycho can't SLEEP anymore,
he can't get out of the house anymore,
he got NOBODY to talk to anymore,
he can't FUCK anymore,
he got no life outside Usenet AT ALL!
he can't get out of the house anymore,
he got NOBODY to talk to anymore,
he can't FUCK anymore,
he got no life outside Usenet AT ALL!
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Re: Everyone Having Endless Fun with our Resident Psychopath, "The Rectum", AGAIN! LOL
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:40:31 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>
>>You can't "prove" I am black, or that I have a Johnson is my rectum.
>
> I've already proved both. It's self evident, anyway.
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:19:40 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>
>>You can't "prove" I am black, or that I have a Johnson is my rectum.
>
> I've already proved both. It's self evident, anyway.
The ONLY thing you ever proved was that you are a sick subnormal degenerate
psychopathic swine and a ridiculous housebound sexual cripple! ...and you
are going to prove it with your next post again! LOL
psychopathic swine and a ridiculous housebound sexual cripple! ...and you
are going to prove it with your next post again! LOL
--
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard (aka "The Rectum").
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard (aka "The Rectum").
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-b5eb5ac033ba@f39g2000prb.
> On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>
>> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> > by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
>> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> the final line: “For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
> improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
>>
>> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> > by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
>> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> the final line: “For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
> improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
The economy is growing faster than China's is.
And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
to insure a fairer distribution of income?
And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
The economy is growing faster than China's is.
And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
to insure a fairer distribution of income?
And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
> They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> IDF.
> peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> IDF.
That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
>> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>> ago:http://www.memri.org/
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"Zev" <zev_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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b5eb5ac033ba@f39g2000prb.
> On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> improving,� she said. �Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.�
news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>
>> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> > by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
>> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> the final line: �For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not>>
>> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> > by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
>> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> improving,� she said. �Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.�
What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
The economy is growing faster than China's is.
And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
to insure a fairer distribution of income?
And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
The economy is growing faster than China's is.
And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
to insure a fairer distribution of income?
And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
> They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> IDF.
> peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> IDF.
That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
>> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>> ago:http://www.memri.org/
The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day and
goods,medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken wheelchairs
and medicine and food past its Use By
Date or very close to it.
goods,medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken wheelchairs
and medicine and food past its Use By
Date or very close to it.
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On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly" <femail1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Zev" <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
>
> news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-
> b5eb5ac03...@f39g2000prb.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> >> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
> >> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> > Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> > human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> > the final line: “For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
> > improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
>
> What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
> The economy is growing faster than China's is.
> And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
> to insure a fairer distribution of income?
> And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
>
> > They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> > peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> > IDF.
>
> That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
> to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>
> >> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
> >> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day
> Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken wheelchairs
> and medicine and food past its Use By
> Date or very close to it.
> "Zev" <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
>
> news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-
> b5eb5ac03...@f39g2000prb.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> >> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
> >> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> > Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> > human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> > improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
>
> What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
> The economy is growing faster than China's is.
> And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
> to insure a fairer distribution of income?
> And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
>
> > They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> > peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> > IDF.
>
> That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
> to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>
> >> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
> >> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day
Several hours a day is too long and more than those sub-humans
deserve!
deserve!
>
> and goods, medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
> and goods, medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
> Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken wheelchairs
> and medicine and food past its Use By
> Date or very close to it.
As my callers "Lesley" and "Joy" never cease to point out, Israel does
far more for Gaza than all the do-gooders and humanitarian missions
combined.
far more for Gaza than all the do-gooders and humanitarian missions
combined.
Anyone who doubts that is, per se, a terrorist. And, yes, children as
young as two and three are terrorists too.
young as two and three are terrorists too.
Give me a call, Tilly, on 0800 80 1080. You sound just like one of us.
NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
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On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly" <femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
accentuate the positive, even though only the most dedicated
suppporter of Israel could find ANYTHING positive in the illegal
blockade of a civilian population:
> "Zev" <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
>
> news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-
> b5eb5ac03...@f39g2000prb.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> >> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
> >> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> > Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> > human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> > the final line: “For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
> > improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
>
> What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
> The economy is growing faster than China's is.
> And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
> to insure a fairer distribution of income?
> And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
>
> > They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> > peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> > IDF.
>
> That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
> to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>
> >> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
> >> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day
accentuate the positive, even though only the most dedicated
suppporter of Israel could find ANYTHING positive in the illegal
blockade of a civilian population:
> "Zev" <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
>
> news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-
> b5eb5ac03...@f39g2000prb.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> >> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
> >> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> > Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> > human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> > improving,” she said. “Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.”
>
> What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
> The economy is growing faster than China's is.
> And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
> to insure a fairer distribution of income?
> And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
>
> > They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> > peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> > IDF.
>
> That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
> to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>
> >> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
> >> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day
It should be open 24 hours a day. Forcing the civilians of Gaza to
accept anything else is a crime.
accept anything else is a crime.
>
> and goods,medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
> and goods,medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
This positive-sounding account differs diametrically from what all the
human rights organizations report. Could you verify that medical
supplies are "flowing in"?
human rights organizations report. Could you verify that medical
supplies are "flowing in"?
>
> Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken wheelchairs
> and medicine and food past its Use By
> Date or very close to it.
> Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken wheelchairs
> and medicine and food past its Use By
> Date or very close to it.
Where do you get that information from?
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"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e33d7f91-9edf-4dbb-8fd8-
On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly" <femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
accentuate the positive, even though only the most dedicated
suppporter of Israel could find ANYTHING positive in the illegal
blockade of a civilian population:
> "Zev" <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
> Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-
> b5eb5ac03...@f39g2000prb.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> >> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
> >> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> > Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> > human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> > the final line: �For the vast majority in Gaza, things are not
> > improving,� she said. �Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.�
>
> What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
> The economy is growing faster than China's is.
> And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
> to insure a fairer distribution of income?
> And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
>
> > They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> > peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> > IDF.
>
> That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
> to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>
> >> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
> >> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day
news:e33d7f91-9edf-4dbb-8fd8-
On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly" <femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
accentuate the positive, even though only the most dedicated
suppporter of Israel could find ANYTHING positive in the illegal
blockade of a civilian population:
> "Zev" <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c365bd8-706b-4269-b4ba-
> Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3896cad5-e9be-4290-a415-
> b5eb5ac03...@f39g2000prb.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 8:48 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> >> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> And while you're at it, why not learn something about
> >> Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
>
> > Nice try, Zev. While this does say something about the optimism of the
> > human spirit, even under the cruellest siege, it's all undermined by
> > improving,� she said. �Most people in Gaza remain forgotten.�
>
> What doesn't come in through Israel, comes through the tunnels.
> The economy is growing faster than China's is.
> And all you saw is the fact that PA-Hamas doesn't take steps
> to insure a fairer distribution of income?
> And you blame that on a "cruel siege"( IOW, Israel)?
>
> > They are not forgotten, though, as is shown by the persistence of the
> > peace flotillas, even after last year's murderous pirate action by the
> > IDF.
>
> That's a poor description of Israel's attempt
> to enforce a legal embargo with paint guns.
>
> >> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months
> >> ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> The crossing into Egypt is now open for several hours a day
It should be open 24 hours a day. Forcing the civilians of Gaza to
accept anything else is a crime.
accept anything else is a crime.
>
> and goods,medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
> and goods,medical supplies are flowing in and exports are leaving.
This positive-sounding account differs diametrically from what all the
human rights organizations report. Could you verify that medical
supplies are "flowing in"?
human rights organizations report. Could you verify that medical
supplies are "flowing in"?
>
> Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken
> wheelchairs
> and medicine and food past its Use By
> Date or very close to it.
> Last year much of the cargo .brought by the flotillas was broken
> wheelchairs
> and medicine and food past its Use By
> Date or very close to it.
>Where do you get that information from?
Al Jazeera, yesterday.
|
"Tilly" <femai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:iurarq$s0e$1@dont-email.
I note you aren't refuting the fact that the 2010 flotilla brought used
less medicines etc....which Hamas
had to throw out.
news:iurarq$s0e$1@dont-email.
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I note you aren't refuting the fact that the 2010 flotilla brought used
less medicines etc....which Hamas
had to throw out.
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On Jul 2, 1:48 pm, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>
> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:http://www.nytimes.com/
> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> <snipped>
> "Morrissey Breen" <morrisseybr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>
> >http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>
> > Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> > by GIDEON LEVY
>
> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:http://www.memri.org/
>
> <snipped>
The israeli navy needs torpedo pratice..
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The reason why Mo and the other Hamas useful idiots are banging away at
this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
flotilla and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the
terrorists.. it recommends Israel pay money to the families of the killed.
organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
flotilla and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the
terrorists.. it recommends Israel pay money to the families of the killed.
Right now Turkey and Israel are continuing urgent talks to "soften" the
report. Turkey is in bad shape here and is desperate to distance itself
from the Hamas connections with the two flotillas.. thats why it has
forced the Turkish boats out of the flotilla. European Govts are also
trying to put a spoke in the Hamas wheel.. they and some of their
citizens are now seen too close to anti-Israeli terrorism.. so the
current flotilla is down to a third of its original size and the
flotilla is likewise very keen to get underway before Palmers report
becomes public on the 7th July and undermines its credibility.
report. Turkey is in bad shape here and is desperate to distance itself
from the Hamas connections with the two flotillas.. thats why it has
forced the Turkish boats out of the flotilla. European Govts are also
trying to put a spoke in the Hamas wheel.. they and some of their
citizens are now seen too close to anti-Israeli terrorism.. so the
current flotilla is down to a third of its original size and the
flotilla is likewise very keen to get underway before Palmers report
becomes public on the 7th July and undermines its credibility.
Palmer is said to be amenable to Turkey and Israel repairing their
relationship and to softening his report in the interests of these two
former allies getting back together (somewhat). Turkey is in a dangerous
position.. its currently threatened by Iran and Syria and its formidable
military capacities have been halved by the Radical Islamist Govt having
imprisoned its military leaders.. and of course, it would have no show
of admittance to the EU in some form with a report showing it was in
cahoots with Hamas.
relationship and to softening his report in the interests of these two
former allies getting back together (somewhat). Turkey is in a dangerous
position.. its currently threatened by Iran and Syria and its formidable
military capacities have been halved by the Radical Islamist Govt having
imprisoned its military leaders.. and of course, it would have no show
of admittance to the EU in some form with a report showing it was in
cahoots with Hamas.
Surprisingly, the UN has now produced two reports that bid fair to shake
the Islamists, Hamas and Hezbollah. One report has implicated Hezbollah
in the murder of the Lebanese Prime Minister Harari, and Palmers report
is likely to undermine the two Gaza flotillas. No wonder Mo is slinging
the insults!
the Islamists, Hamas and Hezbollah. One report has implicated Hezbollah
in the murder of the Lebanese Prime Minister Harari, and Palmers report
is likely to undermine the two Gaza flotillas. No wonder Mo is slinging
the insults!
JC
>
> <snipped>
> <snipped>
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On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, mad phantasy-statistician John (Streicher) Cawston
<rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
> > "Morrissey Breen"<morrisseybr...@gmail.
> > news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> > ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >>http://www.haaretz.com/
>
> >> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> by GIDEON LEVY
>
> > Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> > and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> > My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> > And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
> > This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
> >http://www.memri.org/report/
>
> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
<rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
> > news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> > ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >>http://www.haaretz.com/
>
> >> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> by GIDEON LEVY
>
> > Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> > and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> > My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> > And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
> > This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
> >http://www.memri.org/report/
>
> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
I don't support the Hamas government any more than I support the
government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
>
> useful idiots are banging away at
> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
> useful idiots are banging away at
> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore, but he
has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
assassination.
has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
assassination.
What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
> flotilla
> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
> flotilla
Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
>
> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
Cawston talking!
Cawston talking!
...<snip remaining madness>...
Cawston, please feel free to keep posting your risible and ignorant
assertions. But please be aware that I, and many others, will continue
to highlight them for their disturbingly brazen yet funny combination
of dishonesty and unhinged lunacy.
assertions. But please be aware that I, and many others, will continue
to highlight them for their disturbingly brazen yet funny combination
of dishonesty and unhinged lunacy.
|
"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:
1611becf-49d2-487b-8dbc-news:
> On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, mad phantasy-statistician John (Streicher) Cawston
> <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
>> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
>> > "Morrissey Breen"<morrisseybr...@gmail.
>> > news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>> > ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>> >>http://www.haaretz.com/
>>
>> >> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>> >> by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>> > Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>> > and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>> > My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>> > And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
>> > This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
>> >http://www.memri.org/report/
>>
>> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
>
> I don't support the Hamas government any more than I support the
> government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
Why do you say the embargo is illegal?
Why do you ignore Gilad Shalit?
Why do you ignore Gilad Shalit?
>> useful idiots are banging away at
>> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
>> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
>
> Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore, but he
> has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
> more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
> Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
> on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
> Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
> is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
> assassination.
>
> What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
> incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
> Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
>>
>> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
>> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
>> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
>> flotilla
>
> Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
>> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
>> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
>
> Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore, but he
> has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
> more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
> Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
> on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
> Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
> is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
> assassination.
>
> What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
> incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
> Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
>>
>> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
>> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
>> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
>> flotilla
>
> Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
When the UN report says it did,
will you apologize for that hasty remark?
will you apologize for that hasty remark?
The following discusses the Israeli POV
concerning the legality of the embargo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
concerning the legality of the embargo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
>
> Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
> Cawston talking!
>
> Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
> Cawston talking!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
The peace activists are useful idiots eager to make
headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
The terrorists are embedded among them.
That's how terrorists work.
You know that, but you'd rather call your interlocuters
"Looney", than admit the truth.
headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
The terrorists are embedded among them.
That's how terrorists work.
You know that, but you'd rather call your interlocuters
"Looney", than admit the truth.
|
On Monday, 4/Jul-2011 9:14 p.m., Mo wrote:
> On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, mad phantasy-statistician John (Streicher) Cawston
> <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
>> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
>>> "Morrissey Breen"<morrisseybr...@gmail.
>>> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>>> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>
>>>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>>>> by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>>> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>>> And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
>>> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
>>> http://www.memri.org/report/
>>
>> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
>
> I don't support the Hamas government any more than I support the
> government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
>
>>
>> useful idiots are banging away at
>> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
>> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
>
> Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore,
> On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, mad phantasy-statistician John (Streicher) Cawston
> <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
>> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
>>> "Morrissey Breen"<morrisseybr...@gmail.
>>> news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>>> ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>
>>>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>>>> by GIDEON LEVY
>>
>>> Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>> and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>> My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>>> And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
>>> This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
>>> http://www.memri.org/report/
>>
>> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
>
> I don't support the Hamas government any more than I support the
> government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
>
>>
>> useful idiots are banging away at
>> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
>> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
>
> Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore,
I don't think Norm and Noam will be too happy with this description..
useful idiots should at least work in "running dog of NZ Labour
imperialism" into the equation.
I suggest you stick to the script.
useful idiots should at least work in "running dog of NZ Labour
imperialism" into the equation.
I suggest you stick to the script.
but he
> has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
> more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
> Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
> on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
> Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
> is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
> assassination.
Never mind, he has since recanted his anti-Israel stance. As Wikipedia says:
"While expressing regret that Israel's failure to co-operate with the
Commission had hindered its ability to gather exculpatory facts, he
approved Israel's subsequent internal investigations into incidents
described in the report as well as their establishment of policies to
better protect civilians in future conflicts. He contrasted the Israeli
reaction with the failure of Hamas to investigate or modify their
methods and procedures. Goldstone said he had hoped that the
Commission's inquiry "would begin a new era of evenhandedness at the
U.N. Human Rights Council, whose history of bias against Israel cannot
be doubted".
Commission had hindered its ability to gather exculpatory facts, he
approved Israel's subsequent internal investigations into incidents
described in the report as well as their establishment of policies to
better protect civilians in future conflicts. He contrasted the Israeli
reaction with the failure of Hamas to investigate or modify their
methods and procedures. Goldstone said he had hoped that the
Commission's inquiry "would begin a new era of evenhandedness at the
U.N. Human Rights Council, whose history of bias against Israel cannot
be doubted".
JC
>
> What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
> incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
> Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
>>
>> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
>> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
>> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
>> flotilla
>
> Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
>
>>
>> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
>
> Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
> Cawston talking!
>
> ...<snip remaining madness>...
>
> Cawston, please feel free to keep posting your risible and ignorant
> assertions. But please be aware that I, and many others, will continue
> to highlight them for their disturbingly brazen yet funny combination
> of dishonesty and unhinged lunacy.
>
> What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
> incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
> Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
>>
>> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
>> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
>> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
>> flotilla
>
> Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
>
>>
>> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
>
> Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
> Cawston talking!
>
> ...<snip remaining madness>...
>
> Cawston, please feel free to keep posting your risible and ignorant
> assertions. But please be aware that I, and many others, will continue
> to highlight them for their disturbingly brazen yet funny combination
> of dishonesty and unhinged lunacy.
>
|
On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
> On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
> On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews. What is
a humane answer to control the Jews murderous nature? In Texas..They
would be executed for every murder. Why should we treat them any different?
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
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Israeli Navy got that all ready on the USS Liberty. Now what they need
is the annihilation of Telaviv as payback. And for AIPAC..We owe Israel
complete devastation. Along of course with the execution of every AIPAC
member, and execution of every Bnai brith Jew that contributed to that
antiAmerican terrorist group.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
|
On Jul 4, 10:28 pm, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
>
> > On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
>
> Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
> Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
> school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews.
> On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
>
> > On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
>
> Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
> Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
> school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews.
...<SNIP!>...
Go away, Nazi!
|
On 7/4/2011 5:50 AM, Mo wrote:
> On Jul 4, 10:28 pm, PaxPerPoten<P...@USA.org> wrote:
>> On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
>>
>> Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
>> Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
>> school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews.
>
> ...<SNIP!>...
>
> Go away, Nazi!
Gee...Just a little while ago you were a Jesuit by the handle of
"Brother Ramon". Now you are back to being a slimy Jew holed up on
an offshore Australian Island named Northshore. I understand that you
are wanted in the US for Embezzlement and Fraud.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
> On Jul 4, 10:28 pm, PaxPerPoten<P...@USA.org> wrote:
>> On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
>>
>> Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
>> Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
>> school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews.
>
> ...<SNIP!>...
>
> Go away, Nazi!
Gee...Just a little while ago you were a Jesuit by the handle of
"Brother Ramon". Now you are back to being a slimy Jew holed up on
an offshore Australian Island named Northshore. I understand that you
are wanted in the US for Embezzlement and Fraud.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
|
"PaxPerPoten" <PPP@USA.org> wrote in message
news:ius781$du2$1@dont-email.
> On 7/4/2011 5:50 AM, Mo wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 10:28 pm, PaxPerPoten<P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>> On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
>>>
>>> Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
>>> Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
>>> school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews.
>>
>> ...<SNIP!>...
>>
>> Go away, Nazi!
>
>
> Gee...Just a little while ago you were a Jesuit by the handle of "Brother
> Ramon". Now you are back to being a slimy Jew holed up on
> an offshore Australian Island named Northshore. I understand that you are
> wanted in the US for Embezzlement and Fraud.
>
You really are stupid.
Mo is a New Zealander who lives very close to where I live
and has done for ages.He isn't and has never been Brother Ramon.
news:ius781$du2$1@dont-email.
> On 7/4/2011 5:50 AM, Mo wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 10:28 pm, PaxPerPoten<P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>> On 7/3/2011 9:22 PM, Mo wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 1:41 pm, "Tilly"<femail1...@gmail.com> is determined to
>>>
>>> Good God..Haven't you learned yet. Tilly is as full of shit as a
>>> Christmas Turkey. She herself would pull the trigger on Palestinian
>>> school children. Hitler was right..You cannot live with Jews.
>>
>> ...<SNIP!>...
>>
>> Go away, Nazi!
>
>
> Gee...Just a little while ago you were a Jesuit by the handle of "Brother
> Ramon". Now you are back to being a slimy Jew holed up on
> an offshore Australian Island named Northshore. I understand that you are
> wanted in the US for Embezzlement and Fraud.
>
You really are stupid.
Mo is a New Zealander who lives very close to where I live
and has done for ages.He isn't and has never been Brother Ramon.
|
On Jul 4, 10:15 pm, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:
> 1611becf-49d2-487b-8dbc-
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, mad phantasy-statistician John (Streicher) Cawston
> > <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
> >> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
> >> > "Morrissey Breen"<morrisseybr...@gmail.
> >> > news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> > ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >>http://www.haaretz.com/
>
> >> >> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> >> by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> > Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> > and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> > My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> > And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
> >> >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
> >> > This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
> >> >http://www.memri.org/report/
>
> >> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
>
> > I don't support the Hamas government any more than I support the
> > government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
>
> Why do you say the embargo is illegal?
> "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:
> 1611becf-49d2-487b-8dbc-
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, mad phantasy-statistician John (Streicher) Cawston
> > <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> blithered like a lunatic:
> >> On Sunday, 3/Jul-2011 8:48 a.m., Zev wrote:
> >> > "Morrissey Breen"<morrisseybr...@gmail.
> >> > news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
> >> > ab36-4dec5a18f...@v11g2000prn.
> >> >>http://www.haaretz.com/
>
> >> >> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
> >> >> by GIDEON LEVY
>
> >> > Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
> >> > and arrest and prosecute every participant.
> >> > My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
> >> > And while you're at it, why not learn something about Gaza:
> >> >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/
> >> > This is in addition to another link I gave you some months ago:
> >> >http://www.memri.org/report/
>
> >> The reason why Mo and the other Hamas
>
> > I don't support the Hamas government any more than I support the
> > government of any other state. You're fantasising yet again.
>
> Why do you say the embargo is illegal?
It's illegal not because I "say" it's illegal, but because the
International Court of Justice has ruled it is a crime. That's not
controversial, it's a fact. Enforcing the law is difficult, of course,
because the United States, which also recognizes the illegality of the
blockade, has nevertheless refused to make Israel stop it. The U.S.
gave a similarly long leash to apartheid South Africa and Saddam
Hussein's Iraq.
International Court of Justice has ruled it is a crime. That's not
controversial, it's a fact. Enforcing the law is difficult, of course,
because the United States, which also recognizes the illegality of the
blockade, has nevertheless refused to make Israel stop it. The U.S.
gave a similarly long leash to apartheid South Africa and Saddam
Hussein's Iraq.
>
> Why do you ignore Gilad Shalit?
> Why do you ignore Gilad Shalit?
Was Gilad Shalit going about some legal, peaceful and harmless
activity when he was captured? Why do YOU ignore the thousands of
unarmed Palestinian civilians kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured by
Israel? Are you seriously trying to say the capture of an armed
soldier by a resistance force justifies the collective punishment of
the civilian population of Gaza?
activity when he was captured? Why do YOU ignore the thousands of
unarmed Palestinian civilians kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured by
Israel? Are you seriously trying to say the capture of an armed
soldier by a resistance force justifies the collective punishment of
the civilian population of Gaza?
>
>
>
>
>
> >> useful idiots are banging away at
> >> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
> >> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
>
> > Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore, but he
> > has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
> > more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
> > Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
> > on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
> > Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
> > is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
> > assassination.
>
> > What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
> > incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
> > Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
> >> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
> >> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
> >> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
> >> flotilla
>
> > Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
>
> When the UN report says it did,
> will you apologize for that hasty remark?
>
>
>
>
> >> useful idiots are banging away at
> >> this is to soften the blow from the UN report soon to be published by
> >> the UN.. to be presented by former NZ Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer.
>
> > Talk about "useful idiots"! Palmer is a blowhard and a bore, but he
> > has a brain, and he has seen the horrific treatment meted out to a far
> > more distinguished jurist than he is. Richard Goldstone incensed the
> > Israeli political establishment by finding that the murderous assault
> > on Gaza was designed to "punish, humiliate and terrorize the people of
> > Gaza." For this courageous honesty---and remember that Judge Goldstone
> > is a Zionist---he has been subjected to ceaseless abuse and character
> > assassination.
>
> > What's the bet that Palmer is not going to write anything that
> > incenses the likes of such humanitarian giants as Alan Dershowitz,
> > Mark Regev and Tzipi Livny?
>
> >> The report in draft is harsh on Turkey for allying with the terrorist
> >> organisation IHH which instituted the violence on the first flotilla,
> >> states that Israel had a right under international law to stop the
> >> flotilla
>
> > Israel had no such right. It was a pirate action.
>
> When the UN report says it did,
> will you apologize for that hasty remark?
It had no right to impede or board any of those humanitarian aid
ships, let alone commit a massacre. What gives you the confidence that
this inquiry will bend to the browbeating of the Israeli diplomatic
corps?
ships, let alone commit a massacre. What gives you the confidence that
this inquiry will bend to the browbeating of the Israeli diplomatic
corps?
>
> The following discusses the Israeli POV
> concerning the legality of the embargo:http://www.youtube.
>
> >> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
>
> > Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
> > Cawston talking!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> The peace activists are useful idiots eager to make
> headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
> The following discusses the Israeli POV
> concerning the legality of the embargo:http://www.youtube.
>
> >> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
>
> > Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
> > Cawston talking!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> The peace activists are useful idiots eager to make
> headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
I'll ignore your lame "useful idiots" jibe, Zev. Leave that sort of
abuse to the really desperate, like John Looney-bins Cawston. You do
make one good point however; of course the protestors want to make
headlines. What do you think they should do---sneak five shiploads of
aid through one of the tunnels?
abuse to the really desperate, like John Looney-bins Cawston. You do
make one good point however; of course the protestors want to make
headlines. What do you think they should do---sneak five shiploads of
aid through one of the tunnels?
>
>
> The terrorists are embedded among them.
> That's how terrorists work.
>
> The terrorists are embedded among them.
> That's how terrorists work.
No, Zev, you are simply parroting the most paranoid and
unsubstantiated propaganda. What terrorist acts did the peace
activists carry out last year again?
unsubstantiated propaganda. What terrorist acts did the peace
activists carry out last year again?
>
> You know that, but you'd rather call your interlocuters
> "Looney", than admit the truth.
> You know that, but you'd rather call your interlocuters
> "Looney", than admit the truth.
Cawston is no interlocutor. That implies someone who argues
intelligently and in good faith. I don't use terms like "unhinged",
"looney" or "ignorant" lightly. I use such terms only when someone is
so extreme, and so repetitively absurd in his statements as Cawston
has been over many years (check his posting history if you doubt me).
intelligently and in good faith. I don't use terms like "unhinged",
"looney" or "ignorant" lightly. I use such terms only when someone is
so extreme, and so repetitively absurd in his statements as Cawston
has been over many years (check his posting history if you doubt me).
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*You are Full of Shit* Just like that dried up old Jew hag, Tilly.
>
>>
>> Why do you ignore Gilad Shalit?
>
> Was Gilad Shalit going about some legal, peaceful and harmless
> activity when he was captured? Why do YOU ignore the thousands of
> unarmed Palestinian civilians kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured by
> Israel? Are you seriously trying to say the capture of an armed
> soldier by a resistance force justifies the collective punishment of
> the civilian population of Gaza?
*You are Full of Shit* Just like that dried up old Jew hag, Tilly.
- show quoted text -
*You are Full of Shit* Just like that dried up old Jew hag, Tilly.
>
>>
>> The following discusses the Israeli POV
>> concerning the legality of the embargo:http://www.youtube.
>>
>>>> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the terrorists..
>>
>>> Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
>>> Cawston talking!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> The peace activists are useful idiots eager to make
>> headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
>
> I'll ignore your lame "useful idiots" jibe, Zev. Leave that sort of
> abuse to the really desperate, like John Looney-bins Cawston. You do
> make one good point however; of course the protestors want to make
> headlines. What do you think they should do---sneak five shiploads of
> aid through one of the tunnels?
*You are Full of Shit* Just like that dried up old Jew hag, Tilly.
>
>>
>>
>> The terrorists are embedded among them.
>> That's how terrorists work.
>
> No, Zev, you are simply parroting the most paranoid and
> unsubstantiated propaganda. What terrorist acts did the peace
> activists carry out last year again?
>
>>
>> You know that, but you'd rather call your interlocuters
>> "Looney", than admit the truth.
>
> Cawston is no interlocutor. That implies someone who argues
> intelligently and in good faith. I don't use terms like "unhinged",
> "looney" or "ignorant" lightly. I use such terms only when someone is
> so extreme, and so repetitively absurd in his statements as Cawston
> has been over many years (check his posting history if you doubt me).
*You are Full of Shit* Just like that dried up old Jew hag, Tilly.
>
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
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On Jul 4, 11:35 pm, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
> *You are Full of Shit* Just like that
> *You are Full of Shit* Just like that
...<SNIP INSANITY>...
I cannot imagine that Tilly, or anyone for that matter, would take
this sort of unintelligent abuse with any degree of seriousness. Why
are you here? Isn't there a KKK Klavern or Nazi Party rally that you
need to get to?
this sort of unintelligent abuse with any degree of seriousness. Why
are you here? Isn't there a KKK Klavern or Nazi Party rally that you
need to get to?
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"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11767256-af93-4f64-9740-
On Jul 4, 11:35 pm, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
Of course not.
news:11767256-af93-4f64-9740-
On Jul 4, 11:35 pm, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
> *You are Full of Shit* Just like that
> *You are Full of Shit* Just like that
...<SNIP INSANITY>...
>I cannot imagine that Tilly, or anyone for that matter, would take
>this sort of unintelligent abuse with any degree of seriousness.
>this sort of unintelligent abuse with any degree of seriousness.
Of course not.
> Why are you here? Isn't there a KKK Klavern or Nazi Party rally that you
>need to get to?
>need to get to?
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He posted as 118.92.44.178, Which is North Shore, New Zealand..Which is
an Island off Australia. He posted as Brother Ramon 118.92.44.178.
Gee..they match, Twatty. It amazes me that even in your dried up old age
that you still haven't attained even one Iota of wisdom. I saw your
Australian buddy the other day. He is in good health.
an Island off Australia. He posted as Brother Ramon 118.92.44.178.
Gee..they match, Twatty. It amazes me that even in your dried up old age
that you still haven't attained even one Iota of wisdom. I saw your
Australian buddy the other day. He is in good health.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
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"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8bedf1b4-d0f8-4ae1-b1ae-d9b71f1f239a@q29g2000prj.
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"The U.S. recognizes the illegality of the blockade"???
That's news to me.
I suppose only "Quarantines" (of Cuba, 50 years ago)
are legal...
That's news to me.
I suppose only "Quarantines" (of Cuba, 50 years ago)
are legal...
>> Why do you ignore Gilad Shalit?
>
> Was Gilad Shalit going about some legal, peaceful and harmless
> activity when he was captured? Why do YOU ignore the thousands of
> unarmed Palestinian civilians kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured by
> Israel? Are you seriously trying to say the capture of an armed
> soldier by a resistance force justifies the collective punishment of
> the civilian population of Gaza?
>
> Was Gilad Shalit going about some legal, peaceful and harmless
> activity when he was captured? Why do YOU ignore the thousands of
> unarmed Palestinian civilians kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured by
> Israel? Are you seriously trying to say the capture of an armed
> soldier by a resistance force justifies the collective punishment of
> the civilian population of Gaza?
What are they supposed to do?
Send police to knock on doors and ask
"We're looking for Gilad Shalit, can you help us?"
Have the ambassador visit Morrissey Breen and ask him
to be as concerned about Shalit's rights as he is about others'?
Send police to knock on doors and ask
"We're looking for Gilad Shalit, can you help us?"
Have the ambassador visit Morrissey Breen and ask him
to be as concerned about Shalit's rights as he is about others'?
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What a clever remark!
Already setting up an excuse for being wrong...
Already setting up an excuse for being wrong...
>> The following discusses the Israeli POV
>> concerning the legality of the
>> embargo:http://www.youtube.
>>
>> >> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the
>> >> terrorists..
>>
>> > Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
>> > Cawston talking!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> The peace activists are useful idiots eager to make
>> headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
>
> I'll ignore your lame "useful idiots" jibe, Zev. Leave that sort of
> abuse to the really desperate, like John Looney-bins Cawston. You do
> make one good point however; of course the protestors want to make
> headlines. What do you think they should do---sneak five shiploads of
> aid through one of the tunnels?
>> concerning the legality of the
>> embargo:http://www.youtube.
>>
>> >> and says the Israelis responded too harshly in killing the
>> >> terrorists..
>>
>> > Peace activists are "terrorists". Oh that's right! It's Looney-bins
>> > Cawston talking!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> The peace activists are useful idiots eager to make
>> headlines which will prove how liberal they are.
>
> I'll ignore your lame "useful idiots" jibe, Zev. Leave that sort of
> abuse to the really desperate, like John Looney-bins Cawston. You do
> make one good point however; of course the protestors want to make
> headlines. What do you think they should do---sneak five shiploads of
> aid through one of the tunnels?
What's wrong with the agreement of 2005?
The PA signed, don't you remember?
The PA signed, don't you remember?
>> The terrorists are embedded among them.
>> That's how terrorists work.
>
> No, Zev, you are simply parroting the most paranoid and
> unsubstantiated propaganda. What terrorist acts did the peace
> activists carry out last year again?
>> That's how terrorists work.
>
> No, Zev, you are simply parroting the most paranoid and
> unsubstantiated propaganda. What terrorist acts did the peace
> activists carry out last year again?
To see what the terrorists did, see the clips.
That's why I posted them.
That's why I posted them.
>> You know that, but you'd rather call your interlocuters
>> "Looney", than admit the truth.
>
> Cawston is no interlocutor. That implies someone who argues
> intelligently and in good faith. I don't use terms like "unhinged",
> "looney" or "ignorant" lightly. I use such terms only when someone is
> so extreme, and so repetitively absurd in his statements as Cawston
> has been over many years (check his posting history if you doubt me).
>> "Looney", than admit the truth.
>
> Cawston is no interlocutor. That implies someone who argues
> intelligently and in good faith. I don't use terms like "unhinged",
> "looney" or "ignorant" lightly. I use such terms only when someone is
> so extreme, and so repetitively absurd in his statements as Cawston
> has been over many years (check his posting history if you doubt me).
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But Mo, he's on your aside. I can only assume that you're spurning him
for effect, so you can pretend you're not anti-semitic.
for effect, so you can pretend you're not anti-semitic.
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Sue Bilstein
<sue.bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
<sue.bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 4, 11:42 pm, Mo <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 11:35 pm, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > *You are Full of Shit* Just like that
>>
>> ...<SNIP INSANITY>...
>>
>> I cannot imagine that Tilly, or anyone for that matter, would take
>> this sort of unintelligent abuse with any degree of seriousness. Why
>> are you here? Isn't there a KKK Klavern or Nazi Party rally that you
>> need to get to?
>
>But Mo, he's on your aside.
>> On Jul 4, 11:35 pm, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > *You are Full of Shit* Just like that
>>
>> ...<SNIP INSANITY>...
>>
>> I cannot imagine that Tilly, or anyone for that matter, would take
>> this sort of unintelligent abuse with any degree of seriousness. Why
>> are you here? Isn't there a KKK Klavern or Nazi Party rally that you
>> need to get to?
>
>But Mo, he's on your aside.
Ah, the politics of sides. What you do when you don't have anything
else.
else.
> I can only assume that you're spurning him
>for effect, so you can pretend you're not anti-semitic.
>for effect, so you can pretend you're not anti-semitic.
Pathetic.
But better than Cawston, I have to say.
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Re: Gideon Levy: 'Israel' has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
You ain't proved jack shit and nothing is evident except for your
niggerness. You presumption is also
wrong, jigaboo. How did you celebrate your month, by giving cotton picking
demonstrations?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>>>>>>> by GIDEON LEVY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>>>>>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>>>>>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>>>>>
>>>>> My guess is that Dershowitz is a jew asshole. No, it's more than a
>>>>> guess.
niggerness. You presumption is also
wrong, jigaboo. How did you celebrate your month, by giving cotton picking
demonstrations?
"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
news:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:19:40 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>
>>You can't "prove" I am black, or that I have a Johnson is my rectum.
>
> I've already proved both. It's self evident, anyway.
>
>>Happy 4th of July
>>back at you, and I am sorry I didn't wish you well during nigger history
>>month! LOL
>
> Presumably because you were too busy celebrating it, coonboi.
>
>>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>>news:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:13:19 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
>>> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
>>>
>>> I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
>>> rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
>>>
>>>>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>>>>news:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>>>>>>ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@
>>>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
news:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:19:40 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>
>>You can't "prove" I am black, or that I have a Johnson is my rectum.
>
> I've already proved both. It's self evident, anyway.
>
>>Happy 4th of July
>>back at you, and I am sorry I didn't wish you well during nigger history
>>month! LOL
>
> Presumably because you were too busy celebrating it, coonboi.
>
>>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>>news:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:13:19 -0500, "I have a Big Johnson in my rectum"
>>> <whate...@say.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>My guess is that you are a nigger. No it is more than a guess.
>>>
>>> I *know* you're black. And that you have a Grik johnson in your
>>> rectum. Happy 4th July, asshole! LOL
>>>
>>>>"The Revd" <peeling@degenerate.griks> wrote in message
>>>>news:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:233fed1f-a7b4-4630-
>>>>>>ab36-4dec5a18f2c5@
>>>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/print-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel has no right to stop Gaza aid flotillas
>>>>>>> by GIDEON LEVY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Alan Dershowitz says Israel has a right to stop them
>>>>>>and arrest and prosecute every participant.
>>>>>>My guess is that Dershowitz knows more about law than Levy does.
>>>>>
>>>>> guess.
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On Jul 5, 10:48 am, Ted <ted.8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Sue Bilstein
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Sue Bilstein
>
>
>
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I can see why you find John Cawston threatening. He just keeps rolling
out those facts.
out those facts.
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If *you* say so, Ma'am.
> He just keeps rolling
>out those facts.
>out those facts.
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You are either drunk, Bilstein, or you have never bothered to READ one
of Cawston's posts. What an utterly ridiculous statement you have just
made!
of Cawston's posts. What an utterly ridiculous statement you have just
made!
I wonder if you ever show some of your low-calibre posts to any of
your colleagues in the civil service. One imagines you would incur a
swift performance downgrade. If you were lucky.
your colleagues in the civil service. One imagines you would incur a
swift performance downgrade. If you were lucky.
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You are insane.
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On Jul 5, 3:08 pm, Ted <ted.8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT), Sue Bilstein
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT), Sue Bilstein
>
> >I can see why you find John Cawston threatening.
>
> If *you* say so, Ma'am.
>
> > He just keeps rolling
> >out those facts.
That's OK, you can take my word for it. I can understand that a person
who follows the Palestinian line might have a bit of difficulty with
things like facts.
who follows the Palestinian line might have a bit of difficulty with
things like facts.
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I see the Greeks turned a boat back to shore today.
The Greeks and Israelis had struck a deal for Greece to deliver all the
flotilla's Gaza bound goods and letters. Flotilla chiefs turned it down
with the immortal words:
flotilla's Gaza bound goods and letters. Flotilla chiefs turned it down
with the immortal words:
“Not a chance that Free Gaza will accept that. This [effort] is not
about delivering goods but breaking the illegal siege of Gaza,” said
Greta Berlin, founder of the parent organisation that made several
successful voyages to Gaza in 2008. “There is no way that the coalition
[of participating organisations] will accept that.”
about delivering goods but breaking the illegal siege of Gaza,” said
Greta Berlin, founder of the parent organisation that made several
successful voyages to Gaza in 2008. “There is no way that the coalition
[of participating organisations] will accept that.”
So it was never about feeding the poor Gaza residents.. just political
grandstanding and a good dose of antisemitism.
The UN and PLO had approved the Greece/Israel deal, so there's now no
political cover for the Hamas organised activists.
grandstanding and a good dose of antisemitism.
The UN and PLO had approved the Greece/Israel deal, so there's now no
political cover for the Hamas organised activists.
JC
>
> I wonder if you ever show some of your low-calibre posts to any of
> your colleagues in the civil service. One imagines you would incur a
> swift performance downgrade. If you were lucky.
> I wonder if you ever show some of your low-calibre posts to any of
> your colleagues in the civil service. One imagines you would incur a
> swift performance downgrade. If you were lucky.
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On Jul 5, 9:16 pm, Msgr Scooter <rfb.garlo...@fortesque.me.987
wrote:
> On , , Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:10:34 -0700 (PDT), Re: Gideon Levy: Israel has no
> schtick.
wrote:
> On , , Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:10:34 -0700 (PDT), Re: Gideon Levy: Israel has no
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> >I wonder if you ever show some of your low-calibre posts to any of
> >your colleagues in the civil service. One imagines you would incur a
> >swift performance downgrade. If you were lucky.
>
> You had better watch it, Bilstein will trot out her "You're anti-semitic"> >your colleagues in the civil service. One imagines you would incur a
> >swift performance downgrade. If you were lucky.
>
> schtick.
She's already done it. It's a useful gauge of how desperate someone in
her position is. When you have no weapons (i.e., no argument) you bark
out the worst possible accusation. Trouble is, even Bilstein knows
it's nonsense.
her position is. When you have no weapons (i.e., no argument) you bark
out the worst possible accusation. Trouble is, even Bilstein knows
it's nonsense.
When you've gone nuclear like she has, and no one cares any more, what
have you got left?
have you got left?
Well, there's always the endorsement of John Looney-bins Cawston's
fact-filled posts. She's reduced to that now.
fact-filled posts. She's reduced to that now.
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"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c30c6771-9a8d-4e66-8a14-a6b92ba3afa5@17g2000prr.
> On Jul 5, 9:16 pm, Msgr Scooter <rfb.garlo...@fortesque.me.987
> wrote:
>> On , , Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:10:34 -0700 (PDT), Re: Gideon Levy: Israel has no
>> right to stop Gaza aid flotillas, Mo <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 5, 2:14 pm, Sue Bilstein <sue.bilst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Jul 5, 10:48 am, Ted <ted.8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You had better watch it, Bilstein will trot out her "You're anti-semitic"
>> schtick.
>
> She's already done it. It's a useful gauge of how desperate someone in
> her position is. When you have no weapons (i.e., no argument) you bark
> out the worst possible accusation. Trouble is, even Bilstein knows
> it's nonsense.
>
> When you've gone nuclear like she has, and no one cares any more, what
> have you got left?
>
> Well, there's always the endorsement of John Looney-bins Cawston's
> fact-filled posts. She's reduced to that now.
>> schtick.
>
> She's already done it. It's a useful gauge of how desperate someone in
> her position is. When you have no weapons (i.e., no argument) you bark
> out the worst possible accusation. Trouble is, even Bilstein knows
> it's nonsense.
>
> When you've gone nuclear like she has, and no one cares any more, what
> have you got left?
>
> Well, there's always the endorsement of John Looney-bins Cawston's
> fact-filled posts. She's reduced to that now.
Mo, it's the demonizing, the delegitimizing, the double standard.
Your need to embellish your arguments
with the sure signs of anti-Semitism
says more about you than you admit.
Your need to embellish your arguments
with the sure signs of anti-Semitism
says more about you than you admit.
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On Jul 6, 12:02 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c30c6771-9a8d-4e66-8a14-
> a6b92ba3a...@17g2000prr.
> "Mo" <morrisseybr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c30c6771-9a8d-4e66-8a14-
> a6b92ba3a...@17g2000prr.
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As well as imagining that I'm anti-Semitic, you manage to fit in three
standard Israeli propaganda terms in one sentence. That's impressive
in its own way.
standard Israeli propaganda terms in one sentence. That's impressive
in its own way.
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"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Israeli propaganda"?
It's Anti-Semitism, by international convention.
Avoid it, be honest, be fair, you'll be more effective,
and a better person.
It's Anti-Semitism, by international convention.
Avoid it, be honest, be fair, you'll be more effective,
and a better person.
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:47:16 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
wrote:
>"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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An impressive list of self improvements, all to be obtained by
avoiding Israeli propaganda! I'll give it a try.
avoiding Israeli propaganda! I'll give it a try.
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