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Chris Jack missed last night's Super 12 semifinal hit because of a
high and illegal tackle. But as Chris Mirams discovered the effects of
cheap shots aren't just shaken off.
high and illegal tackle. But as Chris Mirams discovered the effects of
cheap shots aren't just shaken off.
Mood swings, unsettled sleep and a throbbing week-long headache that's
ruled out any exercise. That's what Chris Jack has endured after
Hurricane Jerry Collins brought a slice of street life to the rugby
field.
ruled out any exercise. That's what Chris Jack has endured after
Hurricane Jerry Collins brought a slice of street life to the rugby
field.
Collins received just two weeks' suspension for his dangerous
blindsiding of Jack in the gladiatorial Hurricanes-Crusaders dust-up.
But the All Black lock, like others in the same situation, has had to
deal with far more serious ramifications.
blindsiding of Jack in the gladiatorial Hurricanes-Crusaders dust-up.
But the All Black lock, like others in the same situation, has had to
deal with far more serious ramifications.
The medical consequences of the tackle were immediately obvious and
may take until early next week to fully shake off.
may take until early next week to fully shake off.
Jack was hit in the 27th minute of the game and left unconscious for
20 to 30 seconds. The velocity of the tackle is what did the damage. A
big mass accelerating forward hit by a force from another direction
that has reached a peak speed. The same dynamics can kill when someone
comes off a motorbike and the head hits the road.
20 to 30 seconds. The velocity of the tackle is what did the damage. A
big mass accelerating forward hit by a force from another direction
that has reached a peak speed. The same dynamics can kill when someone
comes off a motorbike and the head hits the road.
"It's been like a hangover," Jack said. But it takes more than a
couple of panadol to fix. After he was helped off the field, Jack's
first memory is of talking to reserve Scott Waldrom a couple of
minutes before halftime.
couple of panadol to fix. After he was helped off the field, Jack's
first memory is of talking to reserve Scott Waldrom a couple of
minutes before halftime.
"Apparently I'd been rabbitting onto him for a couple of minutes
already," Jack said.
already," Jack said.
He struggled to focus and felt in a dreamy state, unaware of what had
happened and how he got to the plastic chair on the sideline.
happened and how he got to the plastic chair on the sideline.
After the final whistle, and under the surreptitious eye of team
medics and support staff, he showered and changed into his tracksuit.
medics and support staff, he showered and changed into his tracksuit.
After the team went through its post-match routine of appraisals and
planning before heading to the after-match function Jack, Dr Deb
Robinson and Dave Hewett headed to the team's hotel.
planning before heading to the after-match function Jack, Dr Deb
Robinson and Dave Hewett headed to the team's hotel.
The objective with such injuries is to avoid stimulating the brain.
Watching TV, reading, driving, bright light and exercise are all
no-no's.
Watching TV, reading, driving, bright light and exercise are all
no-no's.
In the darkened hotel room Hewett watched a bit of TV, and they
chatted before Jack drifted off to sleep shortly after midnight. His
roommate, Brad Thorn, returned after visiting friends and took over
lookout duties.
chatted before Jack drifted off to sleep shortly after midnight. His
roommate, Brad Thorn, returned after visiting friends and took over
lookout duties.
The next morning Jack awoke with a splitting headache and queasy
stomach. It was to stay that way for much of the week. With Dr
Robinson, targets were set of what he would have to be doing on
different days if he was to take the field in last night's semifinal
against the Stormers.
stomach. It was to stay that way for much of the week. With Dr
Robinson, targets were set of what he would have to be doing on
different days if he was to take the field in last night's semifinal
against the Stormers.
Once symptom-free, the final step would be to take a psychometric
test. But with all targets for the early week missed, Jack knew on
Wednesday he wouldn't be playing.
test. But with all targets for the early week missed, Jack knew on
Wednesday he wouldn't be playing.
He couldn't participate in the team's Sunday recovery session in the
swimming pool. His sleep patterns were disrupted and he had trouble
holding or following a conversation that involved more than one
person.
swimming pool. His sleep patterns were disrupted and he had trouble
holding or following a conversation that involved more than one
person.
He was fatigued easily. His mood was low. And all the while, the
headache throbbed on.
headache throbbed on.
"Wednesday was quite an emotional day for me," Jack said. "It was just
a final decision being made. You don't get too many semifinals and you
want to play them when you can.
a final decision being made. You don't get too many semifinals and you
want to play them when you can.
"But I was still dreary and down and there was no point in doing the
(psychometric) test. That dragged me down more naturally."
(psychometric) test. That dragged me down more naturally."
Psychometric tests are computer-based and take around 30 minutes.
Players sit them at the start of the season and, if concussed, must
pass it before being allowed to play.
Players sit them at the start of the season and, if concussed, must
pass it before being allowed to play.
The tests are mostly memory-based - a list of words to remember,
picking the right symbol from patterns of coloured noughts and crosses
and identifying right combinations of words and colours. For example,
picking out that the word green maybe shown as red in colour.
picking the right symbol from patterns of coloured noughts and crosses
and identifying right combinations of words and colours. For example,
picking out that the word green maybe shown as red in colour.
Taking strong pain relief for the headache is not recommended as it
disguises the rate of recovery.
disguises the rate of recovery.
Jack's last contact with the side was at a lunch on Thursday. Even
then, the multiple conversations sharpened his headache and he didn't
stay long.
then, the multiple conversations sharpened his headache and he didn't
stay long.
Staying with the team could distract him, so he's spent his time
resting. Afternoon naps included.
resting. Afternoon naps included.
"But what do most people do to rest?" he said. "Watch TV, read or talk
with people. You can't do too much of any of those so it's pretty
frustrating."
with people. You can't do too much of any of those so it's pretty
frustrating."
Now the targets have been readjusted and it's hoped by early next week
the big lock will be able to cycle without provoking pain and can sit
the psychometric test.
the big lock will be able to cycle without provoking pain and can sit
the psychometric test.
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"Kip" <rkippe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's rugby, not tiddlywinks you simpering softcock sadpacker.
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Kip <rkippe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gr8da052f14nv3hi7u3ha2lv
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/
>
> Chris Jack missed last night's Super 12 semifinal hit because of a
> high and illegal tackle. But as Chris Mirams discovered the effects of
> cheap shots aren't just shaken off.
>
> Mood swings, unsettled sleep and a throbbing week-long headache that's
> ruled out any exercise. That's what Chris Jack has endured after
> Hurricane Jerry Collins brought a slice of street life to the rugby
> field.
>
> Chris Jack missed last night's Super 12 semifinal hit because of a
> high and illegal tackle. But as Chris Mirams discovered the effects of
> cheap shots aren't just shaken off.
>
> Mood swings, unsettled sleep and a throbbing week-long headache that's
> ruled out any exercise. That's what Chris Jack has endured after
> Hurricane Jerry Collins brought a slice of street life to the rugby
> field.
Ha! Mirams has dropped the word "Porirua". Did some sub-editor at
the SST ditch it for him? Or does he just use such coded racism on
Newstalk ZB, for talking to Maori-hating (and, no doubt,
Polynesian-hating) hosts like Larry Williams.
the SST ditch it for him? Or does he just use such coded racism on
Newstalk ZB, for talking to Maori-hating (and, no doubt,
Polynesian-hating) hosts like Larry Williams.
>
> With Dr
> Robinson, targets were set of what he would have to be doing on
> different days if he was to take the field in last night's semifinal
> against the Stormers.
> With Dr
> Robinson, targets were set of what he would have to be doing on
> different days if he was to take the field in last night's semifinal
> against the Stormers.
Jesus! Jack has just been seriously concussed, and this creep is
talking about getting himn on the field a week later?
talking about getting himn on the field a week later?
>
> Once symptom-free, the final step would be to take a psychometric
> test.
> Once symptom-free, the final step would be to take a psychometric
> test.
These tests have no validity. They are regarded with derision by all
neurologists. This ghoul called "Dr Robinson" should be up before a
medical ethics committee.
neurologists. This ghoul called "Dr Robinson" should be up before a
medical ethics committee.
>
> Psychometric tests are computer-based and take around 30 minutes.
> Players sit them at the start of the season and, if concussed, must
> pass it before being allowed to play.
> Psychometric tests are computer-based and take around 30 minutes.
> Players sit them at the start of the season and, if concussed, must
> pass it before being allowed to play.
These "tests" are utterly bogus. They do have an important role
though, and it has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the player.
When a player dies after being sent back to play a week or so after
he's concussed - and, with the likes of Sawbones Mayhew and "Dr
Robinson" fast-tracking brain-damaged players back into action, it
WILL happen - the team management and the team doctor will use the
"psychometric test" data to "prove" that it had been reasonable to
send him back into action again.
though, and it has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the player.
When a player dies after being sent back to play a week or so after
he's concussed - and, with the likes of Sawbones Mayhew and "Dr
Robinson" fast-tracking brain-damaged players back into action, it
WILL happen - the team management and the team doctor will use the
"psychometric test" data to "prove" that it had been reasonable to
send him back into action again.
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fb3a0456.0405160131.
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My 6 year old recently banged her head badly {ok now though}, but they
asked her a load of questions in hospital: name, day, where are you,
all that stuff. Are these tests not the adult version? Hardly part of
a treatment though is it, whatever they're for.
asked her a load of questions in hospital: name, day, where are you,
all that stuff. Are these tests not the adult version? Hardly part of
a treatment though is it, whatever they're for.
Do the tests for ABs include the 'place of birth' question?
/gets coat.....
/gets coat.....
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"didgerman" <aw99...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<BAHpc.19$OS1.16@newsfe1-
>
> My 6 year old recently banged her head badly {ok now though}, but they
> asked her a load of questions in hospital: name, day, where are you,
> all that stuff. Are these tests not the adult version?
> My 6 year old recently banged her head badly {ok now though}, but they
> asked her a load of questions in hospital: name, day, where are you,
> all that stuff. Are these tests not the adult version?
No, these bogus "psychometric tests" have a far different purpose.
>
> Hardly part of
> a treatment though is it, whatever they're for.
> Hardly part of
> a treatment though is it, whatever they're for.
Absolutely not.
>
> Do the tests for ABs include the 'place of birth' question?
> Do the tests for ABs include the 'place of birth' question?
They might as well have, for all the validity they have.
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On 17 May 2004 13:11:12 -0700, dick...@aol.com (Bulldog) wrote:
>You're having a laugh aren't you ? If the 1998/2003 tours are anything
>to go by you might get a player or two cited but they'll be let off.
>to go by you might get a player or two cited but they'll be let off.
Only if we're using our own judiciaries..
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