Monday 22 January 2018

Populuxe1 at his worst in discussion re Syria (June 14, 2013)

  1. Syria uses chemical weapons on its own people, and not one word form the left wing parties of New Zealand.
    But if a farmer from Otago, sprays chemicals on his apples, Russell Norman will be screaming from the roof tops.
    Im sure the standard and the left wing parties will mention the syria story, of course they will blame the states though.
    • fender7.1
      You need to wake up before you start typing, otherwise it just looks like a vague recollection of your disjointed R.E.M. sleep cycle.
      • Morrissey7.1.1
        You need to wake up before you start typing, otherwise it just looks like a vague recollection of your disjointed R.E.M. sleep cycle.
        Sadly, and astoundingly, that is our friend Dale when he is wide awake. You might think it resembles the semi-conscious outpourings of someone not fully awake, or even suffering from drug abuse, but I assure you, fender, the poor fellow won’t get any better.
      • Fender
        Oh Please, your ideology is stopping you from condemning a crime,
        • fender7.1.2.1
          Yeah the “States” made Bashar al-Assad use chemical weapons did they?
          Those Hobbit boxer shorts must be too tight, they seem to be restricting a supply of blood to your brain.
          • Populuxe17.1.2.1.1
            I rather think the implication was that the left wing parties whould be condemning Al-Assad. Your mind is fascinating.
            • fender7.1.2.1.1.1
              You of course must be privy to details of the investigation before it is complete, whereas mere mortals will have to wait for official findings to be made public I suppose.
              • fender
                By the way, one of Bretts implications seemed to be that the NZ left would blame the “States” for making al Assad use chemical weapons on his own people.
                • Colonial Viper
                  The States has simply been itching to supply heavy weapons to the anti Assad brigade (even though half of them are foreign islamists from Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and other nice places)
                  Nothing to go wrong here.
    • Morrissey7.2
      Syria uses chemical weapons on its own people, and not one word form the left wing parties of New Zealand.
      Your witlessness never ceases to astound me. Those are allegations only; nothing has been proved. Where there WAS irrefutable proof of chemical weapon usage was in 2009-9, when Israel used Phosphorus bombs in its murderous assault on Gaza.
      Far from condemning that use of chemical weapons, I remember you frequently expressing your endorsement of it.
      The rest of your little rant is, as always, too incoherent and confused to justify any response.
      • Populuxe17.2.1
        Actaully the official statement says “The Assad regime could prove that its request for an investigation was not just a diversionary tactic by granting the U.N. fact-finding mission immediate and unfettered access to conduct on-site investigations to help reveal the truth about chemical weapons use in Syria. While pushing for a U.N. investigation, the United States has also been working urgently with our partners and allies as well as individuals inside Syria, including the Syrian opposition, to procure, share, and evaluate information associated with reports of chemical weapons use so that we can establish the facts and determine what took place.” http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/text-us-statement-syria-chemical-weapons-19396269
        But congratuations on finding a way to use the horrible death of 100-150 people in Syria as an excuse to spray around some more of your fanatical Jew hate, Morrissey.
        • Morrissey7.2.1.1
          … your fanatical Jew hate, Morrissey.
          What a deliriously funny example of desperation. You just can’t argue in good faith, can you?
          A word to the wise, my friend: when you are unable to formulate a coherent and civilized response, silence is the better option.
          That kind of mad rhetoric only makes you look bad. In fact, it’s so crazed that I’m not even offended, and I actually feel pity for you.
          • Populuxe17.2.1.1.1
            No, I just get bored with you constantly making everything about Israel
            • Morrissey7.2.1.1.1.1
              No, I just get bored with you constantly making everything about Israel
              So I make “everything” about Israel, you say. Where in all of the debate about Edward Snowden, for instance, have I even mentioned Israel?
              The only reason I mentioned Israel was because one (admittedly substandard) poster raised the question of chemical weapons usage. Now, of course, you will probably pretend otherwise, but the fact is that only two regimes have used chemical weapons, and they have in both cases been defended by their U.S. sponsor with the most aggressive and cynical “diplomacy” imaginable. The U.S. even concocted a fantastic story that attempted to pin the blame for the Halabja massacre on another official enemy, Iran.
              There is no evidence that Syria has used chemical weapons—unlike Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and Israel.
              I am sure you know that—but you keep on defending that halfwit Brett Dale if you want.
              • Populuxe1
                Probably because you haven’t thought of a way to connect Snowden and Israel. I wait with anticipation for the UN to confirm that Syria has used Sarin against it’s own people so I can flip you the middle finger and call you some choice names befitting the disgusting waste of protein you are.
                • Pascal's bookie
                  I have no doubt you will.
                  Pretty much sums up your interest in things as far as I can see.
                  Ironic thopugh that you so look forward to using the deaths in syria as an excuse to indulge your, what was it, ‘semi-fictional persona’?
                  • Populuxe1
                    Actually that’s not what I’d doing at all – not any more so than Annette Sykes celebrated 9/11 or Hone Harawera gave a moving eulogy of Osama bin Laden. You just enjoy attacking me in your limp fashion because you don’t agree with me – I’ve never known you to debate a point.
                    • Pascal's bookie
                      That’s hilarious Pop.
                      You are one of the most pointless commenters here.
                      Here’s what you said:
                      I wait with anticipation for the UN to confirm that Syria has used Sarin against it’s own people so I can flip you the middle finger and call you some choice names befitting the disgusting waste of protein you are.
                      Looking forward to confirmation of CW use, purely so that you can continue your petty little squabble with Morrissey, who you greatly resemble, although he does actually make points, wrongheaded as they often might be.
                    • Populuxe1
                      “Looking forward to confirmation of CW use, purely so that you can continue your petty little squabble with Morrissey, who you greatly resemble, although he does actually make points, wrongheaded as they often might be.”
                      You are such a martyr – do you get no enjoyment out of bickering you holier than thou prude?
                    • Pascal's bookie
                      I’m not claiming any sort of martyr status Pop. That would be you having a big old cry because the mean old bookie calls you on your contentless shit.
                      And pointless bickering for the sake of it is, obviously, pointless.
                      But at least you’ve confirmed that’s what you come here for, which is obvious enough given the way you (t)roll.
                • richard
                  @Populuxe1
                  Please don’t confuse the actions of the Israeli government with Judaism.
                  • Morrissey
                    @Populuxe1
                    Please don’t confuse the actions of the Israeli government with Judaism.
                    He’s not confused, richard, he’s just dishonest.
                  • Populuxe1
                    I don’t. But yon Morrissey has a habit of lumping Jewish celebrities in with Likud at every available opportunity
                    • Morrissey
                      I don’t. But yon Morrissey has a habit of lumping Jewish celebrities in with Likud at every available opportunity
                      Another lie. I do not “lump Jewish celebrities in with Likud”; some of the bravest, most outspoken critics of the outlaw Israeli regime have been, and are, Jewish celebrities.
                      A while ago you alleged, absurdly, that my pointing out the vile racism, the merciless lies and the brutal and possibly catastrophic defamation of a Palestinian Christian peace activist by Sacha Baron Cohen means that I was, ergo, attacking all Jews.
                      Over the last couple of years on this excellent forum, I have also expressed contempt for Barack Obama, Tau Henare, Winston Peters, the Japanese and Chinese governments, the Indonesian government, the American-backed Arab dictators, and many other criminals, con-men and impostors who have managed to get themselves into positions of inordinate and unjustified power.
                      Yet you, for some absolutely spurious reason, have consistently maintained that I am “fixated on Israel” and that by, say, reminding people that Israel used Phosphorus bombs on the civilians of Gaza, is to “spray around Jew hate”. Apparently, Israeli politicians and their hardline supporters, like Sacha Baron Cohen and Jerry Seinfeld and Maureen Lipman, are immune to criticism; to even point out their fanatical devotion to the Holy State is a crime.
                      You have no consistency, no integrity and no credibility.
                • Morrissey
                  Probably because you haven’t thought of a way to connect Snowden and Israel.
                  Unbelievable! I publicly keelhaul you for your lack of integrity, your dishonesty, and your irrationality—and you’re back at it almost immediately. As I mentioned before, I do feel a degree of compassion for you, but your idiotic maliciousness sorely tries my patience.
                  I wait with anticipation for the UN to confirm that Syria has used Sarin against it’s[sic] own people so I can flip you the middle finger and call you some choice names befitting the disgusting waste of protein you are.
                  We’ll skip the unimaginative and incompetent abuse and go straight to your one point: you are evidently trying to suggest I support the Syrian regime. I do not. Only a fool, i.e. you, would draw that inference from anything I have written here or anywhere else.
                  • Populuxe1
                    Where did I ever suggest you supported the Syrian regime? I was commenting on your adamant refusal to entertain the likelihood that nerve gas had been used simply because of an all too common anti-US knee jerk reflex. You’re projecting somewhat
                    • Morrissey
                      Where did I ever suggest you supported the Syrian regime?
                      I thought it might have been one of your little jests, like calling me a “Jew-hater”.
                      I was commenting on your adamant refusal to entertain the likelihood that nerve gas had been used simply because of an all too common anti-US knee jerk reflex.
                      A thoroughly discredited regime, at present engaged in two overt wars, both of which it started, and two more undeclared wars, in Yemen and Pakistan, is now making claims similar to the false claims it made to start the 2003 Iraq war. Yet you choose to describe all those who do not accept the unproven allegations of that rogue state as “all too common anti-US knee jerk reflex.” That’s not only trivialization, that’s flagrant misrepresentation.
                      You’re projecting somewhat
                      Projecting what?
                    • Populuxe1
                      “A thoroughly discredited regime, at present engaged in two overt wars, both of which it started, and two more undeclared wars, in Yemen and Pakistan, is now making claims similar to the false claims it made to start the 2003 Iraq war. Yet you choose to describe all those who do not accept the unproven allegations of that rogue state as “all too common anti-US knee jerk reflex.” That’s not only trivialization, that’s flagrant misrepresentation.”
                      And correlation is not causation
                      “Projecting what?”
                      I wish I knew. That’s a question for your therapist.
                  • Poission
                    I wait with anticipation for the UN to confirm that Syria has used Sarin against it’s [sic] own people so I can flip you the middle finger and call you some choice names befitting the disgusting waste of protein you are.
                    Oops
                    • Populuxe1
                      Ok, Syrian rebels used it against Syrians. They’re both as bad as each other.
                    • Poission
                      Now the US?UK is using the excuse of chemical weapons to validate the arming of Syrian rebel groups such as the Al Nusra Front an Al Qaeda affiliated organisation,
                      What could go wrong with this plan?.
                    • Rogue Trooper
                      I made a link late last week, maybe from The Guardian, about the political entrepreneurship manipulating Shia / Sunni, and inter-sectarian oppositions, then there is always the memories of the mujahideen…
                      furthermore, there are the Iranian elections, all candidates competing in obedience to The Supreme Leader, seeking a more complicit Prez. from the single moderate, four conservative and one hardliner candidates.hmmm
    • freedom7.3
      In 2010, large amounts of information from numerous sources revealed the USA’s use of white phosphorus and depleted uranium shells in Iraq during various battles resulting from the USA’s illegal invasion in 2003. I don’t remember hearing any outrage about the illegal use of prohibited weapons from National. There was not a sound from their benches during or after the attacks, or later, when they were the Government and the truth became public. Coming to think of it they are still markedly reticent to comment on it.
      p.s. here is the Greens policy on such
      http://www.greens.org.nz/policy/globalaffairs
      section on global security 3 B

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