John Kirton <nos...@plusnet.com> wrote in message news:<7vl1sv83ll6bgvpijaq6m2dn
>
> Stephen Jones work is excellent
> Stephen Jones work is excellent
Unusual. Jones' sneering, bigoted views on New Zealand and Australian
football mean he enjoys scant respect in the southern hemisphere.
football mean he enjoys scant respect in the southern hemisphere.
>
> and there is a major article on Watson's contribution.
> and there is a major article on Watson's contribution.
Interesting. Was there a major article on Watson's much more
substantial, and destructive, "contribution" to the 1999 final. He
destroyed that match by his refusal to play advantage, baffling and
enraging the French players and the television commentators.
substantial, and destructive, "contribution" to the 1999 final. He
destroyed that match by his refusal to play advantage, baffling and
enraging the French players and the television commentators.
Were there ANY major articles on Watson's performance then in the
British papers? Or does it only matter when he penalises English
players unfairly?
British papers? Or does it only matter when he penalises English
players unfairly?
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> John Kirton <nos...@plusnet.com> wrote in message
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> Were there ANY major articles on Watson's performance then in the
> British papers? Or does it only matter when he penalises English
> players unfairly?
> British papers? Or does it only matter when he penalises English
> players unfairly?
I don't recall - probably. Certainly this report highlighted his lack of
experience...
experience...
"It hovered, tantalisingly, on the verge of greatness but was restrained by
what now passes for a ruck (a law-maker's nightmare), by Andre Watson's
relative inexperience as a referee, and by the massive improvements that all
sides have made in defence."
what now passes for a ruck (a law-maker's nightmare), by Andre Watson's
relative inexperience as a referee, and by the massive improvements that all
sides have made in defence."
"We were left to wonder whether a more experienced official such as Derek
Bevan, of Wales, with a reputation going before him, might have tweaked
matters here and there to coax forth a match worthy of the occasion."
Bevan, of Wales, with a reputation going before him, might have tweaked
matters here and there to coax forth a match worthy of the occasion."
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On 29 Nov 2003 12:56:18 -0800, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
Maybe we only notice when he does that
Breen) wrote:
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Maybe we only notice when he does that
JH
12/1/03
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"Groundhog" <nos...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<bqd24s$1vvuak$1...@ID-
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Thank you very much for that, Groundhog. The "report" is interesting
for what it neglects to mention. You have to wonder if this fellow
David Hands actually WATCHED the final.
for what it neglects to mention. You have to wonder if this fellow
David Hands actually WATCHED the final.
One "observation" that he makes is particularly astounding....
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Would the game have changed if Benazzi had been permitted a try midway
through the first half, a score to lift the hearts and minds of the
underdogs? It was the only time France unpicked the Australia
defence.....
Would the game have changed if Benazzi had been permitted a try midway
through the first half, a score to lift the hearts and minds of the
underdogs? It was the only time France unpicked the Australia
defence.....
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"The only time France unpicked the Australia defence"? Hmmmmmm....
Perhaps Hands was buying a glass of gin, or tucking into a bag of
chips, or sleeping, at 8:35 of the first half, when Watson whistled
back Bernat-Salles after he had unlocked the Australian defence and
was scoring a try. He had whistled him back to put down a scrum for
the Australian forward pass (by Jason Little) that Bernat-Salles had
capitalised on. So much for the law of advantage.
chips, or sleeping, at 8:35 of the first half, when Watson whistled
back Bernat-Salles after he had unlocked the Australian defence and
was scoring a try. He had whistled him back to put down a scrum for
the Australian forward pass (by Jason Little) that Bernat-Salles had
capitalised on. So much for the law of advantage.
Perhaps Hands was texting a friend or playing games on his mobile
phone at 30:00 of the first half, when the French pack unlocked the
Wallaby defence, driving the Australian forwards back 20 metres. As
they delivered the ball into the hands of halfback Galthie about one
metre in front of the posts, Watson, incredibly, blew his whistle.
phone at 30:00 of the first half, when the French pack unlocked the
Wallaby defence, driving the Australian forwards back 20 metres. As
they delivered the ball into the hands of halfback Galthie about one
metre in front of the posts, Watson, incredibly, blew his whistle.
"Use it or lose it! Use it or lose it!" he screamed, bafflingly.
Galthie's face was a mixture of horror, bewilderment and resignation.
He realised, as did the rest of the French team, that nothing they did
would be good enough to defeat Andre Watson.
Galthie's face was a mixture of horror, bewilderment and resignation.
He realised, as did the rest of the French team, that nothing they did
would be good enough to defeat Andre Watson.
Certainly the New Zealand television commentators were utterly
astonished and disturbed by Watson's bizarre rulings, which mortally
affected the French team.
astonished and disturbed by Watson's bizarre rulings, which mortally
affected the French team.
Why, one wonders, did Hands not even mention those incidents.
"John Hill" <johnthewea...@yahoo.
news:
"John Hill" <johnthewea...@yahoo.
news:
> I noted 4 strange decisions.
>
> One the ball was out when Dallaglio picked it up
> Two Gregan pushed the ball out of Greenwood's arms and forward in
> relation to Gregan not Greenwood - should have been either open play
> ball went backward or knock on England scrum
> Three most of his calls on the scrums, but mostly when SA took the
> front rows up.
> Four there was a forward pass call that was at least 5 metres back
>
>
> One the ball was out when Dallaglio picked it up
> Two Gregan pushed the ball out of Greenwood's arms and forward in
> relation to Gregan not Greenwood - should have been either open play
> ball went backward or knock on England scrum
> Three most of his calls on the scrums, but mostly when SA took the
> front rows up.
> Four there was a forward pass call that was at least 5 metres back
>
Also early on he gave a penalty against one of the English forwards for
playing the ball from his knees when in fact he was on his feet. He
penalised Dallaglio for handling on the ground when he didn't touch it. Then
penalised another English forward for obstruction when he had an Ozzie
clamped firmly round his ankles and couldn't have moved had he wanted to.
playing the ball from his knees when in fact he was on his feet. He
penalised Dallaglio for handling on the ground when he didn't touch it. Then
penalised another English forward for obstruction when he had an Ozzie
clamped firmly round his ankles and couldn't have moved had he wanted to.
Then in extra time he penalised one of the Australians for playing the ball
out of the tackle which I think was a marginal call.
out of the tackle which I think was a marginal call.
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"Bedouin" <bedouin@yonderblue,co.uk> wrote in message news:<DNKvb.7926$EF7.67...@
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Absolutely correct. Watson was restrained in this final. Four years
ago his enjoyment of "big calls" led to two decisions that were not
just "questionable", but outrageous. He twice in the first half
refused to play advantage, and robbed France of two tries.
ago his enjoyment of "big calls" led to two decisions that were not
just "questionable", but outrageous. He twice in the first half
refused to play advantage, and robbed France of two tries.
Thank God he behaved himself (comparatively) last night and the match
was a stunner in spite of him. What a contrast to the 1999 final.
was a stunner in spite of him. What a contrast to the 1999 final.
"didgerman" <aw99...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MYNvb.1545$qn4....@
"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> It's true: if he had played accidental offside a couple of times, England
> might have been off into the distance.
> Still, it cuts both ways, and it's done now.
> It's true: if he had played accidental offside a couple of times, England
> might have been off into the distance.
> Still, it cuts both ways, and it's done now.
In the 1999 final, he cut one way only.
Twice.
Fourteen points that, under any other referee, would have been scored.
On 3 Nov 2003 02:14:46 -0800, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
Breen) wrote:
>Daisycutter Sports WORLD CUP SPECIAL (Vol. 2)
Dribble dribble dribble. Another product of Mowissey's interminable
lonely hours cowering in his little bedsit cruelly dismasted before it
makes it past the first line.
lonely hours cowering in his little bedsit cruelly dismasted before it
makes it past the first line.
Such is life, Mowissette.
-- rick boyd
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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It's so sad, and so true. Here's another fine example of a man close to the
edge....
edge....
Have a read and watch the cliches fly.....: You can't have your cake and eat
it too...etc etc.
it too...etc etc.
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:40:30 -0000, "didgerman" <aw99...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>It's so sad, and so true. Here's another fine example of a man close to the
>edge....
>
>http://groups.google.co.uk/
>
>Have a read and watch the cliches fly.....: You can't have your cake and eat
>it too...etc etc.
wrote:
>It's so sad, and so true. Here's another fine example of a man close to the
>edge....
>
>http://groups.google.co.uk/
>
>Have a read and watch the cliches fly.....: You can't have your cake and eat
>it too...etc etc.
Is this rsru, or some other newsgroup?
-- rick boyd
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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RSRU.
Last I looked...
Last I looked...
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"didgerman" <aw99...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<kJApb.2038$382...@
> RSRU.
> Last I looked...
> Last I looked...
Oh good. So it's OK with you if I give my opinions about a rugby game then?
-- rick boyd
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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I'm happy for you to do that, just as I'm happy for Breen to do that. You
chose to slag him off, perhaps you could explain to us why you shouldn't be
slagged off?
Or do we have to pay attention every time you write an essay on who you went
to dinner with?
chose to slag him off, perhaps you could explain to us why you shouldn't be
slagged off?
Or do we have to pay attention every time you write an essay on who you went
to dinner with?
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:54:49 -0000, "didgerman" <aw99...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>I'm happy for you to do that,
wrote:
>I'm happy for you to do that,
Very generous of you.
> just as I'm happy for Breen to do that.
You must be a bit odd then. How come he hasn't been added to your
bulging, over-stuffed killfile? That incontient, dribbling imbecile
has never said one word on this newsgroup that could be mistaken for
sense, and 99% of his incoherent ravings have absolutely nothing to do
with rugby.
bulging, over-stuffed killfile? That incontient, dribbling imbecile
has never said one word on this newsgroup that could be mistaken for
sense, and 99% of his incoherent ravings have absolutely nothing to do
with rugby.
> You
>chose to slag him off, perhaps you could explain to us why you shouldn't be
>slagged off?
>chose to slag him off, perhaps you could explain to us why you shouldn't be
>slagged off?
If I even have to answer this question you are obviously a completely
lost cause, but never let it be said I failed to extend a helping hand
to the mentally enfeebled.
lost cause, but never let it be said I failed to extend a helping hand
to the mentally enfeebled.
The issue here is not quantity. Some very worthy posts of marathon
proportions have been contributed to this newsgroup by thoughtful
posters, and every word was worth reading.
proportions have been contributed to this newsgroup by thoughtful
posters, and every word was worth reading.
The issue here is quality. Breen produces great diarrhoeatic gushings
of verbose garbage. I myself cannot wade past the first line of most
of his offerings. If you find them fascinating, then I think that
draws all the conclusions that we need on this issue.
of verbose garbage. I myself cannot wade past the first line of most
of his offerings. If you find them fascinating, then I think that
draws all the conclusions that we need on this issue.
>Or do we have to pay attention every time you write an essay on who you went
>to dinner with?
>to dinner with?
No, please don't. Please never read another post of mine, killfile me
immediately, and go back to whatever simple tasks formerly occupied
your uncomplicated life.
immediately, and go back to whatever simple tasks formerly occupied
your uncomplicated life.
Ignore me totally and we'll both be a lot happier.
-- rick boyd
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bo...@comswest.net.au (rick boyd) savagely dishes out a right old
shoeing to this writer (moi) in message
news:<3fa653d8...@news.
> makes it past the first line.
>
> Such is life, Mowissette.
Only a few benighted chumps, such as yourself and Martin Devlin and
Rick Boyd, were stoo-pid enough to believe the cocksure predictions of
victory by a small number of rugby "journalists".
shoeing to this writer (moi) in message
news:<3fa653d8...@news.
The cad makes makes fun of this writer, portraying him as a pathetic
social outcast who spends
social outcast who spends
>
> .... interminable lonely hours cowering in his little bedsit cruelly dismasted before it
> .... interminable lonely hours cowering in his little bedsit cruelly dismasted before it
> makes it past the first line.
>
> Such is life, Mowissette.
Hmmmmmm.... after such cruelty, one has to ask: why the venom?
Possibly our moustachioed expat took exception to this extract from
the World Cup Special....
Possibly our moustachioed expat took exception to this extract from
the World Cup Special....
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Only a few benighted chumps, such as yourself and Martin Devlin and
Rick Boyd, were stoo-pid enough to believe the cocksure predictions of
victory by a small number of rugby "journalists".
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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You know, thinking back to '96 and my year in Perth I met a few Kiwis. Were
you perhaps the one driving the removal truck, who tried to sell me his GPS
sideline business, as we got lost somewhere near Mirrabooka?
you perhaps the one driving the removal truck, who tried to sell me his GPS
sideline business, as we got lost somewhere near Mirrabooka?
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:16:40 -0000, "didgerman" <aw99...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>You know, thinking back to '96 and my year in Perth I met a few Kiwis. Were
>you perhaps the one driving the removal truck, who tried to sell me his GPS
>sideline business, as we got lost somewhere near Mirrabooka?
wrote:
>You know, thinking back to '96 and my year in Perth I met a few Kiwis. Were
>you perhaps the one driving the removal truck, who tried to sell me his GPS
>sideline business, as we got lost somewhere near Mirrabooka?
I'm afraid not. It must have been one of the other 50,000 Kiwis in
Perth.
Perth.
-- rick boyd
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"rick boyd" <bo...@comswest.net.au> wrote in message
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I see....
Well then, I'll have to side with the majority for once and 'never read
another post ' as you say.
Well then, I'll have to side with the majority for once and 'never read
another post ' as you say.
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