Lanthanide8.1
Thanks for linking to those older threads, Morrissey, somehow I managed to completely miss the multiple examples of how non “word-perfect” your “transcripts” truly are.I now feel justified in reflexively scrolling past your comments.Morrissey8.1.1
I now feel justified in reflexively scrolling past your comments.When I first started putting up transcripts on this forum, you were full of praise for them, and you recognized that I did capture the essential quality of the discussions.Your disaffection with me came suddenly, and it had nothing to do with questions of accuracy. It came after I had the temerity to lampoon people who you supported. For instance, there was my transcription of an interview with the hapless Hekia Parata, back before she was Minister of Education….
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-30082011/#comment-369467For some reason you have failed to convince anyone on this forum of, you backed the hapless Ms. Parata and her deepwater drilling plans. You also objected to my transcript of a outlandish, bizarre television appearance by Air New Zealand CEO Rob Fyfe, when he assured New Zealanders that Tokyo was “perfectly safe” even while the Japanese government was on the brink of ordering the evacuation of the city….
http://thestandard.org.nz/meltdown-at-fukushima/#comment-314634Your objections to my transcripts are ideological. You need to be honest.
- Oooooh, now that was hardly an intelligent rejoinder. Can we do a tad better than such a miserable effort, do we think?
- I didn’t bother replying because you start out with such an obvious diversion that I literally stopped reading.So I’ll reply up to the point I stopped reading:“When I first started putting up transcripts on this forum, you were full of praise for them,”Yes, because I *assumed* they were actual word-for-word, or very close, transcriptions. I’ve done several transcriptions of various things myself over time and I know how much effort goes into making them. So I was thankful that someone was transcribing snippets from National Radio, snippets that 95% of the time I don’t get a chance to hear, so was glad for them to be recorded.My praise lasted up until I actually heard an interview myself that you had “transcribed”, and I discovered just how loose your “transcriptions” were.“and you recognized that I did capture the essential quality of the discussions.”More flowery waffle on your part. I didn’t “recognise” that you “capture[d] the essential quality of the discussions”, I thought they were actual transcriptions, as I describe above.Skimming the rest of your woeful reply, I see you seem to think that my “dissatisfaction” is something to do with me supporting Hekia Parata: not at all, it is entirely to do with you not actually transcribing segments with any semblance to reality while claiming that you did.But hey, if you want to keep up this little fiction in your head, go right ahead. I think both of our reputations on this blog won’t disabuse any 3rd parties as to the real truth of this situation.
- I didn’t bother replying because you start out with such an obvious diversion that I literally stopped reading.“Literally” stopped reading, did you? You know, embellishing a lie in such a childish manner doesn’t change the fact it’s a lie. “Literally”. As they’d respond on the Panel: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!….because I *assumed* they were actual word-for-word, or very close, transcriptions.They were accurate, and they continue to be accurate, and you know it.Skimming the rest of your woeful reply, I see you seem to think that my “dissatisfaction” is something to do with me supporting Hekia Parata: not at all, it is entirely to do with you not actually transcribing segments with any semblance to reality while claiming that you did.You are, to put it politely, disingenuous. You were outraged that my transcript had shown up Parata in all her bumbling incoherence and vacuity. The highlight of that grim interview was when she claimed that the National government’s oil drilling “policy” had “a variety of various variables”. You actually support the moronic policies she was so ineptly espousing that day, and even more moronic ones than that, as shown by your defiant insistence that the Fukushima catastrophe was being over-hyped by greenies.But hey, if you want to keep up this little fiction in your head, go right ahead. I think both of our reputations on this blog won’t disabuse any 3rd parties as to the real truth of this situation.I am more than happy for people to compare our respective credibility, or lack of it. My transcripts ARE reliable—-I couldn’t dream up characters who exhibit the cruelty, moral turpitude, vanity, pomposity or stupidity of people like Chris Trotter, Stephen Franks, Garth McVicar or any of the other people who I pin down for posterity.You would be quite justified if you had pointed out that I make minor errors now and again, but you have unwisely chosen to exaggerate, demean and distort what I do. I am not a liar, I did not make up Hekia Parata’s hopelessness, or Rob Fyfe’s surreal brand of idiocy. You for some bizarre reason support those fools. Don’t try to pretend that your attempts to undermine me are anything more than ideologically motivated spite.
Te Reo Putake…
I’m still waiting for that apology, you lying sack ‘o’ shit.- I’m still waiting for that apology,I apologize for implying that you supported Trotter’s endorsement of southern lynch law. I knew you were better than that.….you lying sack ‘o’ shit.Oh come on now, I think we can operate in a less juvenile fashion, surely?
- Try again. You didn’t imply. You stated it as fact. You’re lying again, Moz.
richard8.2
She was right to quiz Jacques on China’s human rights record.In our rush to exploit the Chinese people for our own benefits, we are too quick to overlook at the actions of the governing regime that facilitates this exploitation.To quote from a Guardian review of Jacque’s book:Western states frequently do not meet their own standards any more than China does. But I agree with Rousseau, Kant and Paine that all human beings have a sense of self and are thus worthy of equal respect as individuals, as I agree with Aristotle and Plato about the importance of due desert underpinning justice. There is a universal hunger for these values which does not stop at China’s borders because of some mystical adherence to Asian values. We all want to live lives we have reason to value – whether we are Chinese or British.- She was right to quiz Jacques on China’s human rights record.Of course she was. And she was wrong to parrot the U.S. Government’s demeaning language used to attack dissenters in the West.Professor Jacques reminded her that China has greatly increased its standard of living, but she petulantly refused to even acknowledge that.
millsy8.2.1.1
“Professor Jacques reminded her that China has greatly increased its standard of living, but she petulantly refused to even acknowledge that.”Perhaps you should ask the millions of homeless Chinese if their living standards were greatly inrcreased.- Perhaps you should ask the millions of homeless Chinese if their living standards were greatly inrcreased.I’m not defending the Chinese government. I leave that to outfits like NewstalkZB.
joe908.2.2
She was right to quiz Jacques on China’s human rights record.Indeed.The country with the second highest absolute numbers of enslaved is China, with an estimated 2,800,000 to 3,100,000 in modern slavery. The China country study5 suggests that this includes the forced labour of men, women and children in many parts of the economy, including domestic servitude and forced begging, the sexual exploitation of women and children, and forced marriage.
- We should all be wary of the Chinese and its toxic mix of Stalinist communisim and neo-liberal capitalism.Chinese do not have trade unions, environmental regulations, labour laws or social safety nets, and its massive slave workforce keeps wages down all over the world.As I said before on this site. It is not Reagan or Thatcher that western boardrooms should be thanking. It is Deng Xiaopeng.
- We should all be wary of the Chinese and its toxic mix of Stalinist communisim and neo-liberal capitalism.You are correct, millsy. We also need to understand why the Chinese have nothing but contempt for people like Margaret Thatcher, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, who presume to lecture them about human rights.
Colonial Viper8.3.2
China is where the US was 90 years ago. It’s a work in progress.BTW what the Chinese are doing has very little to do with Stalinism or neoliberal capitalism, or any hybrid of the two.chris738.3.3
I’d like the USA to remain as the dominant superpower but I’m not bothered if/when China take over as was shown with how they’ve handled Hong Kong they seem quite pragmatic- I’d like the USA to remain as the dominant superpowerIn a lot of ways this would be a good thing but we have seen now is the US is essentially captured as a state within a state which cannot even govern itself or look after its own people. It’s not good to see.
- Ah well empires rise and empires fall
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Saturday Morning, Radio NZ National, 19 October 2013
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(Aficionados of disruption strategies will note our friend McFlock‘s inept attempts to derail the discussion.)
SUSIE FERGUSON: But in a limited wayyyyyy….