Wednesday 24 January 2018

Redbaiter ally FRED YOUNG comes under the gun (Aug. 22, 2003)

I am sure that we are all, by now, used to fools suddenly appearing
and deciding they should spout off in cyber-space.  But it still comes
as something of a surprise to encounter a poster who makes a complete
and utter goat of himself, and it's still a noteworthy event to see
idiocy displayed on the grand scale.  And that's exactly what happened
when someone calling himself Fred Young <fr...@neverthere.com> strove
manfully, if ineptly, to support the beleaguered Redbaiter in message
news:<6gc7kvgp3uhsr0vkp4s63sc2h6jjohrdnq@4ax.com>...
As usual, when faced with a substandard poster, I have dramatised our
exchange to make it more readable....
The Robert Harris cafe, Queen Street, Auckland.  MORRISSEY BREEN and
his lovely, dark-haired, sloe-eyed companion SERENA are contentedly
sipping lattes.  BREEN chomps on a "fly cemetary" as he reads
print-outs from the nz.general news group.  SERENA quietly peruses an
old copy of Next magazine.  Occasionally, she glances with concern at
the lone figure sitting at the next table, who appears to be an
unbalanced, sad, and possibly mad, individual.  Unbeknownst to either
of them, this is FRED YOUNG, an infamous, tongues-speaking, babbling,
right wing, Christian looney  twerp.  YOUNG sips continuously from a
huge bowl of Bovril.
We join them as BREEN comes to the end of an extended critique of the
printout in front of him...
BREEN:  Pah!  [contemptuously throws print-out down on table]
Redbaiter can almost always be relied on to bandy such terms as
"leftist", "commie" and "liberal" around.
SERENA:  Yes, he certainly does seem to be a fool, Morrissey.  I'll
never forget the sight of him spitting and raving like a mad rabid dog
in Myers Park that day!
YOUNG:  If he's referring you he seems to be pretty accurate.
[BREEN and SERENA turn around, to the source of the comment.  SERENA
looks slightly concerned...]
BREEN:  What?  Are you talking to us?
[YOUNG says nothing, just takes another sip from his bowl of Bovril.
He presents a picture of totally self-satisfied right wing smugness.
Suddenly BREEN has his dander up....]
BREEN:  Idiot!  This writer NEVER does that.   But Redbaiter does!
Obviously the mad, raving, Bovril-swigging chump imagines that
everybody else takes their political guidance from the Reader's
Digest, the Washington Times (that Moonie rag oft quoted by zionists
and pro-Bush lunatics) and the Moral Majority.
YOUNG:  Typical ranting leftist. If anything doesn't agree with him he
attacks the messenger. No logical or factual argument, just
foaming-at-the mouth rants.
BREEN:  This writer (moi) dealt with Redbaiter's ridiculously
simplistic posts a few months ago.   Perhaps it is appropriate to
re-post one part of that message....
[BREEN takes out laptop]
YOUNG:  I doubt that you could deal with constructing an outhouse.
BREEN:  Hmmmmmmm....  Oh!  That was a JOKE, was it?  
SERENA:  Ignore the fool, Morrissey.  He is incapable of clear-minded
argument.
BREEN:  I know, my dear, I know.   But I think it needs to be said,
even if it's wasted on some people.  Obviously, Fred here can see
nothing wrong with the unreflective use of the cartoonish epithet
"commie".   This is something only the crudest McCarthyite stooges
used in the dark days of the witch hunts in the 1940s and 50s.
YOUNG:  [spluttering, spraying Bovril all over the place and appalling
the adjacent diners]  See what I mean. "McCarthyite"! Name-calling
twerp. Have you noted how McCarthy has recently been justified in a
lot of what he did.
SERENA:  [bursting into laughter]  He has?!!?!?!!?!?!??!
BREEN:  Who on earth found McCarthy was "justified"?  Was it,
errrrrrrrr, Sir Thomas Eichelbaum, perchance?
YOUNG:  Read Anne Coulter (Wait for it: Bween will attack her for that
one!!) -
BREEN:  [shouting obnoxiously]  You bet I will!  Anne Coulter is a
ridiculous right wing maniac, for pity's sake!  If you've sunk to
quoting that silly cow, why the hell don't you just quote Hitler
directly and be done with it, you fool?
YOUNG: [undaunted]  The lefties crucified him with their constant
barrage of lies and dennigrations because he told the truth.
SERENA:  Eh?  Is he talking about SENATOR JOE McCARTHY????!??!?!!?
BREEN:  He is, my dear, he is!
[SERENA, clearly shocked, whispers in BREEN's ear.  BREEN nods
mysteriously.  SERENA gets up and walks out.]
BREEN:  [to YOUNG] Redbaiter's use of these terms reflects both his
indolence and the intellectual level of what he reads (probably G.I.
Joe comics).
YOUNG:  Talking about yourself? Inferiority complex got your dander
up?  [sips Bovril]
BREEN:  [waving print-out in front of YOUNG's eyes]  Note that
Redbaiter makes no attempt to refute the facts, which are, of course,
irrefutable. Instead, he makes that one dismissive comment, replete
with adjectives and nothing else.
YOUNG:  Isn't that just what you are doing?  [sips Bovril]
BREEN:  Look, you beef tea-slurping halfwit, you can see the whole of
my critique of this McCarthyist moron by clicking on THIS....
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Redbaiter&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=fb3a0456.0306150714.20c70113%40posting.google.com&rnum=5
YOUNG:  [sourly] It's interesting how some morons can locate a
propaganda URL!
[Re-enter SERENA, carrying a Glock pistol]
BREEN:  [brightening up]  Ah, thank you my dear!  I really should stop
leaving it in the glovebox of the Breen-mobile!
[YOUNG blanches.  Other diners scatter.]
TO BE CONTINUED...
Click here to Reply
Redbaiter 
8/22/03
Morrissey Breen says...
> I am sure that we are all, by now,
What "we" are all used to by now is barren of argument fairy
tale believing leftists personally attacking anyone who disturbs
their self deluded reveries with reality.
Don't think I ever read your long winded verbose self indulgent
crap, there is enough of your abusive personally focused ilk on
this ng to choke a horse.
--
Redbaiter
In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
Craig D 
8/22/03
What a waste of time
On 21 Aug 2003 11:06:50 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
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Remove * to email.
On usenet I speak only for myself.
Berend de Boer 
8/22/03
>>>>> "Morrissey" == Morrissey Breen <morriss...@yahoo.com> writes:
    Morrissey> SERENA: Ignore the fool, Morrissey.  He is incapable of
    Morrissey> clear-minded argument.
I continue to be amazed at the sheer intellectual capacity of this
mind. After less than 50 words of YOUNG, he's already analyzed,
categorized and set aside as unworthy of argument. Only Labour
apologizer are capable of such acts.
--
Berend.
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 *** Join the protest march at 23 August at noon bottom of Queen St.
Fred Young 
8/22/03
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:20:54 +1200, Berend de Boer <ber...@xsol.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> "Morrissey" == Morrissey Breen <morriss...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>    Morrissey> SERENA: Ignore the fool, Morrissey.  He is incapable of
>    Morrissey> clear-minded argument.
>
>I continue to be amazed at the sheer intellectual capacity of this
>mind. After less than 50 words of YOUNG, he's already analyzed,
>categorized and set aside as unworthy of argument. Only Labour
>apologizer are capable of such acts.
When I turned on my computer this morning I thought I had opened a
sewer. It is staggering that there are such nasty, petty, low-life
types posting here. Nothing to contribute except bile and juvenile
behaviour. Disgusting. 
John Sefton 
8/22/03

"Fred Young" <fr...@neverthere.com> wrote in message
news:ileakv81p6373v7h8i2u8dvqn5e0ufb0iq@4ax.com...
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You must be doing something right; he hates you so much that he wants to
shoot you! So much for intellectual debate from the hard-lefties!

Fred Young 
8/22/03
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They don't seem to be able to handle debate, the only alternative is
personal attacks and insults.
William Lyon McKenzie 
8/22/03
John Sefton allegedly said:
>> When I turned on my computer this morning I thought I had opened a
>> sewer. It is staggering that there are such nasty, petty, low-life
>> types posting here. Nothing to contribute except bile and juvenile
>> behaviour. Disgusting.
>
> You must be doing something right; he hates you so much that he wants to
> shoot you! So much for intellectual debate from the hard-lefties!
Breen's worst beats your best......
William Lyon McKenzie 
8/22/03
Craig D allegedly said:
> What a waste of time
Maybe at your house......
Mark Remfrey 
8/22/03
Can you take this somewhere else, or explain it's relevance to this group so
I can respond?
Regards,
Mark
"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fb3a0456.0308211006.5ebdd5f@posting.google.com...

> I am sure that we are all, by now, used to fools suddenly appearing
> and deciding they should spout off in cyber-space.  But it still comes
> as something of a surprise to encounter a poster who makes a complete
> and utter goat of himself, and it's still a noteworthy event to see
> idiocy displayed on the grand scale.  And that's exactly what happened
> when someone calling himself Fred Young <fr...@neverthere.com> strove
> manfully, if ineptly, to support the beleaguered Redbaiter in message
> news:<6gc7kvgp3uhsr0vkp4s63sc2h6jjohrdnq@4ax.com>...

Redbaiter 
8/22/03
Fred Young says...
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The truth is that the poor deluded fools just do not have the
gonads or the intellect or the information to answer their case.
Full of old news, old ideas, and biased information from the
mainstream media, they are completely flummoxed when challenged
on the issues.
The sad reality is that when they need to substantiate their
views, they find they can't, and like Mowwisey, turn to subject
avoiding fantasies, or like the hating ignoramus using the name
Sam, to lies and false allegations. And even when Ron asks for
proof he tells him to "fuck off".
Its their problem. They can't shoot bullets when they don't
really have any ammunition. Being short on intellect as well,
all they can do is throw mud.
As I have said, their use of this newsgroup shows they don't
know how usenet differs from a chatroom. They would all be
better off taking their pitifully inadequate contributions to
some lowlife one liner hate session somewhere. Probably where
they spend most of their time anyway.
--
Redbaiter
In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
John Sefton 
8/22/03

"William Lyon McKenzie" <bi...@wolfisland.org> wrote in message
news:gKb1b.13023$9f7.1531097@news02.tsnz.net...
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So you agree that threatening the right-wingers with shooting is the only
way to win your debates?
BTW: and you are...?

John Sefton 
8/22/03

"William Lyon McKenzie" <bi...@wolfisland.org> wrote in message
news:DKb1b.13024$9f7.1531047@news02.tsnz.net...

> Craig D allegedly said:
>
> > What a waste of time
>
> Maybe at your house......
Are you the one Breen is talking about when he says:
"> I am sure that we are all, by now, used to fools suddenly appearing
> and deciding they should spout off in cyber-space."?
I haven't seen you here before, but you start attacking us old timers like
an old hand - I'm afraid we haven't been formally introduced...

William Lyon McKenzie 
8/22/03
John Sefton allegedly said:
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As bad as that is, it beast your best.

> BTW: and you are...?
Does it matter? The point remains the same:  
Breen's creativity and demonstrable good faith in debate is an example you
would do well to follow.

John Sefton 
8/22/03

"William Lyon McKenzie" <bi...@wolfisland.org> wrote in message
news:Vjc1b.13041$9f7.1531683@news02.tsnz.net...

> John Sefton allegedly said:
>
> >
> > "William Lyon McKenzie" <bi...@wolfisland.org> wrote in message
> > news:gKb1b.13023$9f7.1531097@news02.tsnz.net...
> >> John Sefton allegedly said:
> >>
> >> >> When I turned on my computer this morning I thought I had opened a
> >> >> sewer. It is staggering that there are such nasty, petty, low-life
> >> >> types posting here. Nothing to contribute except bile and juvenile
> >> >> behaviour. Disgusting.
> >> >
> >> > You must be doing something right; he hates you so much that he wants
> >> > to shoot you! So much for intellectual debate from the hard-lefties!
> >>
> >> Breen's worst beats your best......
> >
> > So you agree that threatening the right-wingers with shooting is the
only
> > way to win your debates?
>
> As bad as that is, it beast your best.
Shooting those who disagree with you IS rather beastly, so you got that
right! :^(
It's just words, Steve and Morrisey - they can't hurt you! You don't need to
take up arms against those with whom you disagree! Or are you now agreeing
that Bush's approach to world peace is the right one?
> > BTW: and you are...?
>
> Does it matter? The point remains the same:
That you are probably Steve Withers' latest incarnation, in a pathetic
attempt at pretence at having numbers on your side, actually DOES matter,
IMO.
> Breen's creativity and demonstrable good faith in debate
Pulling out a gun to silence the debating opposition is an example of YOUR
best?
>is an example you
> would do well to follow.
>
>
>
>

William Lyon McKenzie 
8/22/03
John Sefton allegedly said:
>> >> > You must be doing something right; he hates you so much that he
>> >> > wants to shoot you! So much for intellectual debate from the
>> >> > hard-lefties!
>> >>
>> >> Breen's worst beats your best......
>> >
>> > So you agree that threatening the right-wingers with shooting is the
> only
>> > way to win your debates?
>>
>> As bad as that is, it beast your best.
>
> Shooting those who disagree with you IS rather beastly, so you got that
> right! :^(
>
> It's just words, Steve and Morrisey - they can't hurt you!
Then what were you complaining about above? Morrisey's post was just
words....
> Or are you now
> agreeing that Bush's approach to world peace is the right one?
He's not just words.  He really kills people. I doubt Morrisey would follow
his example. 
Daniel Silva 
8/22/03
John Sefton <js...@removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:bi3hd0$ana$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

> "William Lyon McKenzie" <bi...@wolfisland.org> wrote in message
> news:gKb1b.13023$9f7.1531097@news02.tsnz.net...
> > Breen's worst beats your best......

>
> So you agree that threatening the right-wingers with shooting is the only
> way to win your debates?
>
> BTW: and you are...?
He is Steve Withers, who became slightly unhinged when Saddam was defeated.

Chris Wilkinson 
8/22/03
Hi there,
Redbaiter wrote:
> Morrissey Breen says...
>
>>I am sure that we are all, by now,
> Don't think I ever read your long winded verbose self indulgent
> crap, there is enough of your abusive personally focused ilk on
> this ng to choke a horse.
I agree with this...Morrissey has the gall to appoint himself
Judge of 'post of the year'. Here is an extract from one of
those posts...
<drivel>
Morrissey Breen wrote:
The prestigious Daisycutter Sports Digest "Post of
the Year" award goes to the post adjudged by the editors to be the....
(a) most morally OBTUSE, or .... (b) most obnoxiously HYPOCRITICAL,  or ....
(c) just plain IGNORANT statement of the year.
The judges are satisfied that this post perfectly fulfills criterion
(c).
LET YOUR PATHETIC ENVY AND SELF-AGGRANDISEMENT WORK FOR YOU....
</drivel>
...I said he should vote himself in, since his posts meet many
of the above criteria...no response thus far...
Kind regards,
Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch.

Chris Wilkinson 
8/22/03
Hi there,
Redbaiter wrote:
> The sad reality is that when they need to substantiate their
> views, they find they can't, and like Mowwisey, turn to subject
> avoiding fantasies, or like the hating ignoramus using the name
> Sam, to lies and false allegations. And even when Ron asks for
> proof he tells him to "fuck off".
Both those dorks have had a go at myself and others recently.
Both use unsubstantiated argument, but failing finding factual
argument with which to argue with they both turn to personal
insults and drivel...
...and isn't Morrissey the 'man', with his laptop and 'Serena'.
;-)
Kind regards,
Chris Wilkinson, Christchurch.
Peter Metcalfe 
8/22/03
In article <2ri1b.123497$JA5.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
dan...@NOSPAMsilva.co.nz says...
> He is Steve Withers, who became slightly unhinged when Saddam was defeated.
"slightly" is an understatement.
--Peter Metcalfe
Fred Young 
8/22/03
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Sure it wasn't before?
It is tempting to believe your reference to an understatement!
Tilly 
8/22/03
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He appears to have become demented, even to have gone round the twist. Mind
you I think his motives are good.

Enkidu 
8/22/03
On 21 Aug 2003 11:06:50 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
>
>I am sure that we are all, by now, used to fools suddenly appearing
>and deciding they should spout off in cyber-space.  But it still comes
>as something of a surprise to encounter a poster who makes a complete
>and utter goat of himself, and it's still a noteworthy event to see
>idiocy displayed on the grand scale.
>
I'm sure you will grow out of it, Morrissey.
Incidentally, your "dramatisations" remind me of Ernire Wise's if only
because Ernie's were at least funny, and your's make his seem like
Shakespear, in comparison.
Cheers,
Cliff
--  
Signed and sealed with Great Seal of the Executive
Council of the Internet, by The Master of The Net.
Morrissey Breen 
8/22/03
Redbaiter <do...@email.me> spat out the following in message
news:<3f45206a$1...@news.orcon.net.nz>...
>
> Don't think I ever read your long winded verbose self indulgent
> crap, there is enough of your abusive personally focused ilk on
> this ng to choke a horse.
morriss...@yahoo.com 
8/22/03
Obviously he has been drinking Bovril, but now it seems that poor old
Fred Young <fr...@neverthere.com> has been on the wormwood too, judging
from the hallucinatory quality of his post in message
news:<ileakv81p6373v7h8i2u8dvqn5e0ufb0iq@4ax.com>...
>
> When I turned on my computer this morning I thought I had opened a sewer. 
Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but I think THAT is the
funniest sentence posted on the internet this year.
>
> It is staggering that there are such nasty, petty, low-life types posting here. 
"Staggering"??!?!?!?!!!?!??!?!  Pourquoi?
>
> Nothing to contribute except bile and juvenile behaviour. Disgusting.
I thought you SUPPORTED Redbaiter.  Good God, you're fickle.
morriss...@yahoo.com 
8/23/03
"John Sefton" <js...@removethis.ihug.com.au> blithered in message
news:<bi3fdk$9l7$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>...
>
> You must be doing something right; he hates you so much that he wants to
> shoot you! So much for intellectual debate from the hard-lefties!
Read the original post again, moron.   How is this writer a
"hard-lefty"?  Indeed, what IS a "hard lefty"?  It's dollars to donuts
that you have no idea...
By the way - this writer (moi) is always perfectly happy to debate.
Why do you think that Serena's fetching my glock pistol meant that I
was going to use it on Mr Young?  You are jumping to conclusions,
methinks.  Only once has this writer deemed it necessary to actually
carry out an execution: the victim being the late, unlamented serial
public masturbator and troll Axel Van Kampen.
John Sefton 
8/23/03

"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fb3a0456.0308220424.6dc9d4c8@posting.google.com...

> "John Sefton" <js...@removethis.ihug.com.au> blithered in message
> news:<bi3fdk$9l7$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>...
>
> >
> > You must be doing something right; he hates you so much that he wants to
> > shoot you! So much for intellectual debate from the hard-lefties!
>
> Read the original post again, moron.   How is this writer a
> "hard-lefty"?  Indeed, what IS a "hard lefty"?  It's dollars to donuts
> that you have no idea...
Wrong! I know what I mean when I say it - that's all that matters.
> By the way - this writer (moi) is always perfectly happy to debate.
> Why do you think that Serena's fetching my glock pistol meant that I
> was going to use it on Mr Young?
"comes under the gun" suggests coming under fire, don't you think? The
reaction of Mr Young in your story suggests that he believed you'd use it.
And that, my dear boy, is the definition of assault. Maybe you find the
threat of violence amusing, but some of us are more civilised...
> You are jumping to conclusions,
> methinks.  Only once has this writer deemed it necessary to actually
> carry out an execution: the victim being the late, unlamented serial
> public masturbator and troll Axel Van Kampen.
Another troll writing his own accolades - how unusual!

morriss...@yahoo.com 
8/23/03
Enkidu <enk...@cliffp.com> has a go at moi in message
news:<7ikbkv0bt4i5g3d6387s08fmidd7b2lb5a@4ax.com>...
> On 21 Aug 2003 11:06:50 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
> Breen) wrote:
> >
> >I am sure that we are all, by now, used to fools suddenly appearing
> >and deciding they should spout off in cyber-space.  But it still comes
> >as something of a surprise to encounter a poster who makes a complete
> >and utter goat of himself, and it's still a noteworthy event to see
> >idiocy displayed on the grand scale.
> >
> I'm sure you will grow out of it, Morrissey.
Ouch!
And then THIS....
>
> Incidentally, your "dramatisations" remind me of Ernire
[sic!]
>
> Wise's if only because Ernie's were at least funny, and your's
[sic!]
>
> make his seem like Shakespear,
[sic!]
>
> in comparison.
That is supposed to make moi feel bad, is it?  This writer fashions
himself after Hiken or La Frenais or Perelman, not Shakespeare.  And
this writer would respectfully suggest that anyone who called Ernie
Wise "funny" might not be competent to judge another writer's (albeit
humble) attempts at comedy....
Enkidu 
8/23/03
On 22 Aug 2003 10:54:08 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
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Morrissey, relative to your attempts at play writing, Ernie's stuff
*IS* funny. Really, you are to playwriting what The Great McGonagall
(William Topaz McGonagall) was to poetry.
Your picking on my typo, my misplaced apostrophe, and my spelling of
Shakespear(e) makes me sic! (So far as the last mistake goes, at
various times Shakespear(e)'s name has been spelt both ways, although
I did intend to type the "e")
Cheers,
Cliff
--  
Signed and sealed with Great Seal of the Executive
Council of the Internet, by The Master of The Net.
David Pears 
8/23/03
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:38:27 +1000, "John Sefton"
<js...@removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote:
>
>"William Lyon McKenzie" <bi...@wolfisland.org> wrote in message
>news:DKb1b.13024$9f7.1531047@news02.tsnz.net...
>> Craig D allegedly said:
>>
>> > What a waste of time
>>
>> Maybe at your house......

>
>Are you the one Breen is talking about when he says:
>
>"> I am sure that we are all, by now, used to fools suddenly appearing
>> and deciding they should spout off in cyber-space."?
>
>I haven't seen you here before, but you start attacking us old timers like
>an old hand - I'm afraid we haven't been formally introduced...
Stop playing with him John... you know perfectly well this is Steve
Withers. The association with Breen proves it... One withdraws in to
his fantasy world whenever his cluelessness is pointed out, and dreams
of killing those who humiliate him. The other never even quite makes
it out of his fantasy world. A world where the US Supreme Court is
going to rule that France has a veto power over US foreign policy any
day now, where Kim Jong Il is almost as funny a guy as his good mate
Breen, where appointing Gadaffi to run the world's human rights is a
great idea that will enhance the UN's credibility no end, and where
Nazi murders should be allowed to retire to Argentina.
If there were no other reason to invade Saddam's Iraq, it'd be worth
doing it just to wind up these two sad wankers.
David
Fred Young 
8/23/03
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- show quoted text -
Chuckle!  This guy Withers/Breen must be quite a character. At least
we get a bit of humour from his rants.
Brian Dooley 
8/24/03

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:30:08 GMT, David Pears
<dpears...@bigfoot.com.au> wrote:
snip---
>If there were no other reason to invade Saddam's Iraq, it'd be worth
>doing it just to wind up these two sad wankers.
Don't let Bush hear you say that - he'll use it.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington  New Zealand
Brian Dooley 
8/24/03
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:25:10 +1200, Enkidu <enk...@cliffp.com>
wrote:
snip---
>Morrissey, relative to your attempts at play writing, Ernie's stuff
>*IS* funny. Really, you are to playwriting what The Great McGonagall
>(William Topaz McGonagall) was to poetry.
I hope you don't mind me mentioning it, Cliff, but I don't think
you should explain eg McGonagall.
Those who understand the allusion will appreciate it without it
being spelled out.
Those who don't never will, and it spoils it for the rest of us.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington  New Zealand
morriss...@yahoo.com 
8/24/03
David Pears <dpears...@bigfoot.com.au> attacks both Steve and moi
in message news:<m21ckvcekeqdb4ob7rub43j8of7h6oumum@4ax.com>...
> One...
[He's talking about MOI, fellas!]
>
> withdraws in to
> his fantasy world whenever his cluelessness is pointed out, and dreams
> of killing those who humiliate him.
Errrrrr... who exactly was it that "pointed out" this writer's
"cluelessness"?  And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pears support
the wholesale slaughter of thousands of Iraqis by the illegally
invading Coalition of Hypocrisy forces, plus the setting up of a
Nazi-style death camp at Guantanamo Bay?  And here he is objecting to
freaking FANTASY executions!!!!  Quelle hypocrisie!
Then he blathers, disconnectedly and incoherently, and of course quite
dishonestly, about Steve's world view, which Pears says is....
>
> A world where the US Supreme Court is
> going to rule that France has a veto power over US foreign policy any day now,
France has a veto in the U.N., which it is prepared to use even in the
face of the bullying of the rogue Bush administration.  How does that
translate as France having a veto over AMERICAN foreign policy?
>
> where Kim Jong Il is almost as funny a guy as his good mate Breen,
Hell, he IS a funny guy!  I've heard he does an excellent Kim-Il Sung
impersonation.
>
> where appointing Gadaffi to run the world's human rights is a great idea that will
> enhance the UN's credibility no end,
Errrrrr... Gaddafi is not.  The world's human rights mean little in
the face of a determined, intransigent and fanatical rogue regime like
the Bush administration.  Neither Gaddafi nor anyone else can do much
to curb, for instance, the abuses of human rights in Guantanamo, in
Israel or in Iraq.  For example: have the American soldiers who
"accidentally" killed the two Arab journalists in Baghdad's Palestine
Hotel ever been charged with anything?  And could Mr Pears explain for
us exactly why Gaddafi less fit to "run the world's human rights" (as
Pears ridiculously terms it) than, say, Mr Tony Blair or Mr George W.
Bush?
>
>and where  Nazi murders
[sic!]
>
> should be allowed to retire to Argentina.
As Mr Pears well knows, the Nazis that hid in Paraguay, Brazil,
Argentina and [name your favorite brutal U.S.-backed Central or South
American military dictatorship here] were doing so with the tacit
approval of the American government.
>
> If there were no other reason to invade Saddam's Iraq, it'd be worth
> doing it just to wind up these two sad wankers.
Hey, I like it!   We could have naming rights for atrocities!  Steve,
you can have your name on the next checkpoint murder of unarmed women
and children.  I claim the next shooting of unarmed Iraqi
demonstrators!
How far back can we go, Mr Pears?  Could I get naming rights for the
1988 gassing of the Kurds, which the USA tried to cover up?  The
Breen/Hussein/Bush Senior  Gassing of the Kurds.  I like it!
Mainlander 
8/26/03
In article <j7adkvoeup6secoglkugaq0p59v9ebiurd@4ax.com>,
fr...@neverthere.com says...
- show quoted text -
I'm sure it distracts you from the fact that your posts are widely
ignored Graeme.
Mainlander 
8/28/03
In article <3f4aa990$1...@news.orcon.net.nz>do...@email.me says...
> Mainlander says...

>
> > > >
> > > >If there were no other reason to invade Saddam's Iraq, it'd be worth
> > > >doing it just to wind up these two sad wankers.
> > > >
> > > >David
> > >
> > > Chuckle!  This guy Withers/Breen must be quite a character. At least
> > > we get a bit of humour from his rants.
> >
> > I'm sure it distracts you from the fact that your posts are widely
> > ignored Graeme.
> > 
> Why don't you fuck off with your personal attacks, you're just
> another leftist usenet thug.
And you're a liar, as you claim to have killfiled me
 

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