“There isn’t much profundity coming from us on this unfortunately.” The Panel grapples with the Ottawa shootings (Oct. 24, 2014)

25 October 2014 at 10:29 am

“There isn’t much profundity coming from us on this unfortunately.”
The Panel grapples with the Ottawa shootings
Radio NZ National, Friday 24 October 2014
Jim Mora, Jane Clifton, Jesse Mulligan

Those shootings in Ottawa were the inevitable consequence of Canada’s involvement in the destruction of Iraq and Afghanistan? Perish the thought. Don’t even dare say what you’re thinking. Especially if you work for the media.

Over the last few days, we poor media “consumers” have been bombarded with assurances that the attack on Canada’s parliament was the work of a deranged individual, acting alone, a “lone wolf”, as the BBC and Al Jazeera and every other respectable news organization is calling him. Jim Mora, like practically every “journalist” at Radio New Zealand, has been solidly on message, parroting the line established immediately by the Canadian government: “There’s no credible connection between these shootings and Canada’s commitment to military intervention against ISIS,” he announced on Wednesday afternoon’s show.

There was a perfect example of this resolute refusal to avoid the glaringly obvious during the final three minutes of today’s edition of The Panel. We join the show at the end of a discussion about Air New Zealand’s decision to ban electronic cigarettes…..

JANE CLIFTON: There’s lots of things you shouldn’t be able to do on planes, like chew gum loudly and you know. [Snort]
JIM MORA: Yeah, but Jesse’s right isn’t he, it is such the LOOK now to frown on, you can imagine the looks on the planes. …..[Pause, followed by long intake of breath to indicate moving on to a REALLY serious topic]….. Now I, I’ve left this for last and I don’t expect miraculous profundity but as you can imagine, in Canada they’re trying to analyze the anatomy of terrorism.
JANE CLIFTON: [anguished tone] Oooooohhhhh.
MORA: A headline from the Canadian National Post: “Radicalized young people feel like a speck of dust in an uncaring universe,” before joining organizations like ISIS. [pause] Ah, er, do you have any thoughts on what’s going on, beyond the usual, you know, These are the children of anomie and they’re rebelling against empty materialism and they’re getting purpose from radical Islam? Do you think that’s basically it? Do you have any particular thoughts about what is happening?
JANE CLIFTON: I, I, the pathology probably varies wildly—widely—but I think to be able to kill someone in cold blood, you have to have a degree of, you know, madness. For want of a better, you know—
MORA: Yeah.
JANE CLIFTON: You know, if you have a bad personality disorder, you can’t just, you know, there are a lot of things you can do about anomie without killing, torturing, you know….
MORA: Yeah.
JESSE MULLIGAN: Yeah. Do you think religion is that leap of faith thing, you know, you talk about people who are vulnerable being drawn into systems where there’s some structure, and maybe the addition of religion when there’s someone telling them God wants you to do this maybe that’s what they need, rather than madness, to move on and kill?
JANE CLIFTON: Hmmmmm.
MORA: [deep sigh] Structure and promise, of course, I suppose.
JESSE MULLIGAN: Mmmmm.
MORA: And there is interesting analysis going on. We probably have heard that it’s not immigrants or even their children. It’s the children of the children. Once the migrant’s gratitude’s disappeared. But part of that’s the multi-cult— the failure of aspects of the multi-culture. Because these people are still ostracized, often,
JANE CLIFTON: Yeahhhh.
MORA: And they feel ostracized. Ahhh, and the other thing out today out of Canada, aaahh, there IS university research going on and evidence suggests jihadist converts are NO MORE LIKELY to have psychiatric problems than others.
JANE CLIFTON: Ooooohhhhh!
MORA: But seem to be searching, as you’ve just said, for some kind of personal meaning or a MORBID BRAND of immortality or sometimes just adventure.
JESSE MULLIGAN: Hmmmmmm.
JANE CLIFTON: [snorting to convey weary perplexity] It’s just interesting isn’t it. I mean it’s just hard to, you know, killing in cold blood for that sort of reason, it just doesn’t seem like a normal human thought pattern to me.
MORA: No.
JANE CLIFTON: But I suppose there is war, which is kind of the same thing. Only, you know, God!
MORA: Hmmmmm….

……[End of program music swells up]……

JANE CLIFTON: No, you’re right. There isn’t much profundity coming from us on this unfortunately. [snort]
JIM MORA: No, there was a good response from the two of you though. But it’s going to take a long time to sort this out. Don’t you think?
JANE CLIFTON: Yeah.
JESSE MULLIGAN: Sure.
MORA: As you say, Jane, it’s not one size fits all. Jane Clifton, have a lovely long weekend!
JANE CLIFTON: THANK you!
MORA: You too Jesse Mulligan!
JESSE MULLIGAN: Thank you very much.
MORA: Have a great trip to Hong Kong if we don’t see you first.
JESSE MULLIGAN: Thanks, I’m off on Sunday morning actually….

In case the above depresses you, be assured that there are still real journalists, who have actually done some serious thinking about this….
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40032.htm

• vto10.1

  25 October 2014 at 1:15 pm

  Exactly Morrisey, that link says it all.

  It is stunning that Canada acts all shocked and bewildered when they have been at war with these people for 13 years.

  And it is absolutely NOT terrorism – both the Canadian events were clearly aimed directly at the military. Not even a hint of threat to civilians.

  More lies from the authorities to justify more war themselves. Just like Key has done and is doing.

  If Key takes us to war then Key will be bringing war to our country. Here.
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