Thursday 4 January 2018

“Faceless people” attacking Pat Lam? YEAH RIGHT. (April 12, 2012)

“Faceless people” attacking Pat Lam? YEAH RIGHT.
The Auckland Blues have lost five out of their first six games, so of course there’s only one possible reason: too many darkies, both playing and coaching.
Well, that’s what “they” have been saying on the internet and on Radio Sport and NewstalkZB. And some of the people who ring in are almost as racist as the hosts.
Yet, in spite of the recent denunciations of the “gutless cowardly boofheads who hide behind the anonymity of the internet” there is little evidence that anyone, even the victims, are prepared or willing to confront the main culprits. Instead, the victims themselves have chosen to pretend that the racism infesting the airwaves is due to some vague ethereal “anonymous” presence…
Yesterday an emotionally distraught Pat Lam publicly fingered what he said was the source of these comments: “It’s the faceless people,” he blubbed. On radio this morning, Blues CEO Andy Dalton repeated that message: we don’t know who they are, these “faceless people”.
Yesterday on NewstalkZB, Larry Williams, without missing a beat, told Mark Watson that that “we get this garbage too”, and that it “goes straight into the rubbish bin.”
Listen to Susan Wood this morning on NewstalkZB: “The cowardly boofheads …anonymity of the internet….gutless…”
Enough already!!! What Wood and Williams and (most of all) Pat Lam know perfectly well is that the source of the most vitriolic anti-Polynesian, anti-Maori comments is right under their noses. NewstalkZB/Radio Sport hosts Murray Deaker, Paul Holmes, Tony Veitch, Leighton Smith are notorious for their racially charged comments, and their demeaning of Maori and Polynesians.
The people responsible for these ugly racist comments are not “faceless”, they are the colleagues of Wood and Williams. It’s an indictment of Lam and Dalton that they lack the courage to state this plainly.
  • Uturn11.1
    Re: Paul Holme’s racist outbursts.
    Did The Jackal ever get a reply to his complaint to the HRC about Holmes article on Watangi Day?
      • Jackal11.1.1
        Unfortunately not. The HRC, Privacy Commissioner and BSA have decided to not even acknowledge complaints from me anymore, which is unbelievably undemocratic! The Ombudsman is also delaying indefinitely many of my complaints well past the allowable timeframe, which is all designed to dissuade me from making them.
    • bad1211.2
      Our Forensic Psychologist viewed that Pat Lam interview and laughingly pointed out the way Pat managed to stop being emotional at least twice in the news footage to look up straight faced at the interviewer in what our Psychologist called a look of ”am I believable”,
      Pat using ”emotion” to head those calling for His head off at the pass so to speak…
    • Bored11.3
      Its bloody ugly, you note there are never complaints when the team is going well, they could not have enough darkies then!
      Couple of things to note:
      * In my experience I have never heard Deaker making “racist” noises, I have heard him being brave enough to address the real problems of age size differences in school rugby that touch upon ethnicity that can bring charges of racism. He may be many things but he is definitely not a racist.
      * Auckland rugby is suffering badly and the Blues are symptomatic of this. A few years back the Auckland provincial and Super teams had token Palangis and Maoris, the team was very Samoan. The fear was that “smaller” players (read pakeha) were being forced out of the game and that the top level would suffer from a reduced player base. I was involved with kids rugby on the North Shore when the local unions went to great lengths to ensure that the player drain of non Polynesians was staunched, and that weight / age grades etc were promoted. When you look at the Blues and Auckland now you can see the results, the team naturally has a large Polynesian content, Auckland after all is the largest Polynesian city.The teams ethnicity is now far more mixed. It looks a bit like the local population you would see walking down the road.
      Time for all Aucklanders to get behind their team, cut the crap and support Lam.
    • Morrissey11.3.1
      In my experience I have never heard Deaker making “racist” noises… He may be many things but he is definitely not a racist.
      You obviously have not listened to Murray Deaker for very long.
      Your defence of him is based on fantasy.
      • Bored11.3.1.1
        Ah come on Morrissey, I did not call you out on Paul Holmes, Tony Veitch, Leighton
        Smith because I never listen to them ( and maybe because its on the record that they are as you describe)!
        Deaks…now that’s different, listen all the time as he is prepared to ask the hard questions and listen for the answers. Have I missed an episode? Can I get it on replay? He is very much like the Mad Butcher, a real enthusiast, I doubt he would treat you differently if you were a Martian.
        • Jackal11.3.1.1.1
          I presume you’re accepting of Deaker using the N word then Bored?
          • Bored11.3.1.1.1.1
            I stand corrected…Deaks has used the term “nigger” it appears from your article and I don’t see it as acceptable in any context. I will however go by Willie Loses interpretation that the term is wrong but the man is not a racist.
            • Morrissey
              Some confusion by our good friend Bored, when he writes: “I will however go by Willie Loses interpretation that the term is wrong but the man is not a racist.”
              So… he uses a racist word, repeatedly and calculatedly, but he is not a racist.
                        • Willy Lose’s bizarre and illogical claim can partly be explained by the fact he was speaking as a colleague and was afraid of provoking the notoriously belligerent Deaker. What is your motivation for writing such nonsense?
                          • Bored
                            Motivation? I happen to like the work he does on rugby and I happen to believe he is not a racist. That’s my opinion, on that we obviously differ. I tend to give people a chance before I condemn, your evidence does rather lead me to reconsider. Whats is your motivation?
                    • Morrissey11.3.1.1.2
                      Deaks…now that’s different, listen all the time as he is prepared to ask the hard questions and listen for the answers.
                      “Prepared to ask the hard questions?” Deaker? You’re dreaming, my friend. Obviously you were asleep when he was toadying after John O’Neill and Vernon Pugh in 2002. Deaker accepted every single word they said as they hijacked New Zealand’s games for the 2003 World Cup. What hard questions are you talking about? His advocacy of the Blackheart campaign in 2003? What “hard questions” did he ask then? When he is not acting as a sycophant and asking patsy questions, bellowing his disdain for Maori and Polynesian footballers, he’s opining for hour after hour about how “dark skinned people lack the necessary concentration to play cricket”.
                      Have I missed an episode? Can I get it on replay?
                      Are you serious? Are you trying to suggest that Deaker’s racist ranting has been confined to just a few episodes that you happen to have missed?
                      He is very much like the Mad Butcher, a real enthusiast,
                      That’s a very charitable assessment of the talent-free zone known as the Mad Butcher.
                      I doubt he would treat you differently if you were a Martian.
                      Lucky for the Martians then. Just a pity he’s such a crude bigot towards Maori and Polynesian people.
                      • Bored11.3.1.1.2.1
                        Jeez Morrissey, just read your deconstruct and fell about laughing (genuinely, it is amusing), especially about the Mad Butcher. Just to put you straight here the Butcher may be talent free as far as you are concerned BUT he has an immense and demonstrable talent for charity and kindness. Now that’s talent.
                        Deaks also amused me with his constant questioning of Henry over his “judge me by the results” (hard questions perhaps).
                        All up I have admitted I got it wrong, you wont however get me regarding Deaks as a racist.
                        PS Nice to get off the “political” for a change.
                        • Morrissey
                          I can see you are a very kind and decent person, Bored. But there are a couple of points I still disagree with…
                          1.) “[The Mad Butcher] has an immense and demonstrable talent for charity and kindness.”
                          He certainly has a talent for publicising how much money he gives away.
                          2.) Deaks also amused me with his constant questioning of Henry over his “judge me by the results”
                          He’s had to shut up about that now, although you have to wonder how obnoxious he would be towards Henry and the All Blacks if there had been an unbiased referee in the World Cup final last year.
                          3.) you wont however get me regarding Deaks as a racist
                          Unfortunately, no matter how indulgently or charitably one wants to look on Deaker, his own record acts as a prosecutor against him….
                          http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-21032012/#comment-449711
                          • Bored
                            I will keep being kind and decent, but I promise you if I hear him being deliberately racist I will telephone in with the wrath of Bored.

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