Castigating the poor for being poor; Jock Anderson rampant on the Panel today The Panel, Radio NZ National, Monday 9 December 2013 Jim Mora, Jock Anderson, Mark Inglis
First of all, perky girl Noelle McCarthy made a statement of blithering hypocrisy, which for its humbug level is right up there—or down there—with Barack Obama’s eulogy for Nelson Mandela….
JIM MORA: It’s Noelle McCarthy with what the WOOOOOOOOORLD’s talking about. NOELLE McCARTHY:[light-hearted tone] Well there’s an interesting one first up. If you can swallow your ideological scruples and are going to the Winter Olympics, there’s a list of things you are not allowed to take with you! JIM MORA: Oh? Ha ha ha ha ha! MARK INGLIS: Ha ha ha ha ha! JOCK ANDERSON: Haw haw haw haw haw!
Later, Jock Anderson launched into one of his ideologically charged discourses, claiming, without being challenged by either Mora or Inglis, that John Minto* was responsible for a great deal of disruption in this country in 1981, and then expressed his “skepticism” about the levels of poverty in this country, before blaming the poor for making “poor choices”. (Interestingly, he has never castigated the rich for making poor choices—at least not on this programme.) He also sneered at “the likes of Charles Waldegrave and company who make more of this than there really is.”
Far from making him defend these extreme ideological statements, Inglis and Mora chimed in with more of the same….
MORA: Why would Charles Waldegrave do this? Is this the poverty industry that Rodney Hide speaks of? MARK INGLIS: Hmmmm, I struggle with this idea of poverty. You know, I’ve been to India, where I can show you real poverty. MORA:[Deep sigh to indicate moral seriousness] All right, now, let’s talk to Dr Elizabeth Craig of the NZ Child and Youth Epidemiology Service at the University of Otago. Ahhhh, Elizabeth, I remember Helen Clark denying we had the really poor and we’ve just had Mark Inglis talking about India….
Dr Craig spoke clearly and patiently, in spite of an initial barrage of faux-naïve and contrarian statements from Mora. Almost in spite of his antics, this ended up as an interesting and informative discussion. By the end of her appearance he was talking intelligently and not making dishonest and provocative statements. He is actually very good when he concentrates; it shows what he is capable of if he did not spend so much of his time trying to formulate complex sentences and pandering to his right wing guests.
* Designated target for abuse by selected Labour Party apparatchiks.
Jock Anderson on the Panel (RNZ) suggesting, in the spirit of reconciliation, the nation forgives John Minto and sends him. FFS!!! John Minto was an anti-apartheid hero. He might forgive the NZRU and the National Party but hell will freeze over before that lot say sorry to Black Africa.
Jock Anderson, wasn’t it? I only got to hear part of what he said, but he started by saying he’s rethought his opposition to Minto going while driving to the studio and now accepted that someone from the anti-tour movement should go. I thought that sounded rather considered, but if, as you say, he was just being snide, I’m disappointed.
TRP Anderson was conceding that John Minto should go. But only in the spirit of forgiveness. My point is that the likes of Anderson, the RFU, The majority of the National Party, despised John Minto and will never say that they were sorry for the sporting contacts. John Minto does not need any forgiveness.
I agree logie – for me John Minto is at the top of heroes of this country – well above Ed for instance and he needs zero forgiveness from anyone. The best thing is that he is still with us and you can befriend him on facebook for instance – being a friend of your hero – wow it doesn’t get better than that!!!!!
That Facebook thing Marty…….yeah must admit how good it feels to be in a place small enough and special enough (excuse a whiff of hand-over-heart there) when your heroes often live just around the corner, figuratively if not literally.
Remember a bit of a flame war happening on FB with this person whose profile picture quite ludicrously had a wallpaper of a trillion peace symbols behind her. While she performed like a right little Zionist Nazi. Until then an FB friend of Minto’s she lavishly “de-friended” him online in real time. Was hilarious !
Admit it was good to get a thumbs up from John Minto to some comment I made. Reassured that my moral compass was working sorta thing.
Anyway John…………you go to the funeral or you don’t…………..what really matters is Mandela knows !
Listen to what the South African High Commissioner had to say this morning on Morning Report regarding the “protest movement” – HART et al http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/2579182
Talking about Noelle McCarthy does anyone know why RNZ have such a love affair with her. When she was resident in NZ they were always using her on air. She left NZ and returned to Ireland and now every year we find her coming out to NZ for her summer holidays and find work on Radio NZ. It has been suggested that RNZ pay for her to come out here. Does anyone know if this is correct and if so why?
What political hue were the prime ministers of Britain, New Zealand, Australia in 1981. and what was their attitude to sporting contact with SA?
Margaret Thatcher, Robert Muldoon, and Malcolm Fraser.
One of them was vehemently opposed to sporting contacts. (- it wasn’t Thatcher or Muldoon).
And what political hue are the prime ministers of those countries who are attending the funeral. Cameron, Key, Abbott.
Nothing changes does it ? (Except, were apartheid to be in existence still, you can bet all these three would still be branding the protesters as wreckers and criminals.)
Jesus, Morrissey, why do you put yourself through this? I suppose that I should be grateful that you do it so that I don’t have to, but think of your own health!
ah yes “real poverty”. yes, Mark, let’s wait until we have people like India, it will be easier to deal with it then, won’t it.
Mr Inglis who put quite the burden on the taxpayer and rescue services with his sometimes reckless climbing excursions. I wonder, since he’s been on the speaking circuit etc, how much has he paid back? I mean, if we use India as a template, as he wishes, an amputee such as he would be sitting on a street with a bowl begging for money.
you jest, yet I still bear a scar on my cheek from such a missile; Vandal, may God rest his soul, died a violent death not too many years after. And still, Punks Not Dead. Perceptive though Arfamo; had a sh*t, time for a shower, no necessity to shave, and we’re off, Into The Great Wide Open.
Jock Anderson rampant on the Panel today
The Panel, Radio NZ National, Monday 9 December 2013
Jim Mora, Jock Anderson, Mark Inglis
NOELLE McCARTHY: [light-hearted tone] Well there’s an interesting one first up. If you can swallow your ideological scruples and are going to the Winter Olympics, there’s a list of things you are not allowed to take with you!
JIM MORA: Oh? Ha ha ha ha ha!
MARK INGLIS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
JOCK ANDERSON: Haw haw haw haw haw!
MARK INGLIS: Hmmmm, I struggle with this idea of poverty. You know, I’ve been to India, where I can show you real poverty.
MORA: [Deep sigh to indicate moral seriousness] All right, now, let’s talk to Dr Elizabeth Craig of the NZ Child and Youth Epidemiology Service at the University of Otago. Ahhhh, Elizabeth, I remember Helen Clark denying we had the really poor and we’ve just had Mark Inglis talking about India….
FFS!!! John Minto was an anti-apartheid hero.
He might forgive the NZRU and the National Party but hell will freeze over before that lot say sorry to Black Africa.
John Minto does not need any forgiveness.
Morning Report regarding the “protest movement” – HART et al
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/2579182
Britain, New Zealand, Australia in 1981. and what was their attitude to sporting contact with SA?
Cameron, Key, Abbott.
http://michaelsmithnews.com
Perceptive though Arfamo; had a sh*t, time for a shower, no necessity to shave, and we’re off, Into The Great Wide Open.