Breen: You would not say that to his face . . . remember, I have come across you, and know what a wimp you are. As for a worthless POS . . . that is applicable to you more than anyone else.
Swifty
He’s clearly unwell.
Women laughing at him for so long must have an effect on a man.
igm
He is not, and never was, a real man. He is a loser in all facets of life, especially his politics.
gump
There were a lot of posts yesterday on Kiwiblog speculating about the ethnicity and immigration status of the person who has been charged with killing Grace Millane.
Will those Kiwiblog posters apologise for their fuckwittery?
Swifty
Yes, I thought that was rather unbecoming at times.
Ethnicity is not the issue.
Classic Liberal
Swifty, I agree. In some cases, ideology is the issue (i.e. when an ideology brings men up to be violent misogynists, as we’ve seen in the UK).
And in some cases, this one probably, total madness is the issue.
Swifty
I’ve had associations with some pretty hard nuts over 35 years – including the upper echelons of the NZ criminal fraternity – not now, but going back to the 80s and 90s.
I’ve known two people who were murdered and I’m guessing I’ve had associations with about eight murderers.
If you ask me what has caused these men to murder I’d struggle to identify any common pattern.
My belief is that is part nature but mostly nurture. I’ve known guys that have had such a shitty upbringing it would make you weep at what they went through as kids and who went on to repeat what they were taught – but also I’m pretty sure there are bad eggs born, when I think about those scumbags who had a normal upbringing and were just scumbags from the get go.
From my experience, ethnicity has nothing to do with it – and, for the record, I have known plenty of pakehas who were the most rotten, raping, murdering, thieving, dishonourable, cheating, lying scumbags you’d ever had the displeasure of meeting.
Classic Liberal
All agreed. And when you have an ideology that tells men to beat their wives if they ‘fear disobedience’ that’s clearly a part of a very bad upbringing that will lead to violence.
UrbanNeocolonialist
Teachers can point out kids who will become violent thugs at primary school. Much of it is innate, and unfixable psychopaths with poor impulse control are born that way. In Coromandel a few years back there was a primary kid so nasty, violent and out of control that he needed a full time minder in school, and a large group of parents banded together to bus their kids 1hr to Thames every day to keep away from him.
UrbanNeocolonialist
“[At 3 years old] you can do a test in 45 minutes: The things we measured included the ability to express language, to understand language, fine motor ability, some neurological signs – just basic reflexes – and also an important trait or ability called self-control, which is about emotion regulation. So that combination, by age three, told us a lot about who would be in the group and who would therefore have those high costs across the first half of their life course, at least – this is to age 38.
and then we have in todays Herald the old chestnut re NZ Mounted troops indiscretion in avenging the death of a Kiwi soldier in 1918 and Allenby’s disapproval and reprimand. C’est la guerre (even post guerre). What does one expect except tiredness even from Officers who should have acted.
Tall Man
And yet maori are over represented in all those crimes. They are 17% of the population and that includes all percentages so there are many like mihi ngarangi forbes who are whiter than I, yet they exceed 50% of the violent crime stats so you tell me WTF that means.
Jules99
I was talking to someone from Corrections who some time back did a study involving interviewing hardened criminals. The overwhelming common feature was that most had experienced child abuse growing up. While not every kid who experiences this will become a criminal, if the child has no support they are going to suffer one way or another unless they are lucky and get help. Of course some of those guys will be living in the same communities as adults and can’t escape it. Very sad.
Morrissey
Longknives
igm
Swifty
igm
gump
Swifty
Classic Liberal
Swifty
Classic Liberal
UrbanNeocolonialist
UrbanNeocolonialist
MH
Tall Man
Jules99