Friday 14 December 2018

N.Z. sports journalists have learned nothing in the last twelve years (Oct. 17, 2011)

"There's no agnostics on my show! This is a 100 per-cent All Black supporters zone," ranted Radio Sport journeyman Mark Watson last Saturday night. 

Hive-mind syndrome in the media, from the NZ Herald's absurd Wynne "Sensible" Gray and Chris "Ratshit" Rattue down to fair-weather fans like Murray Deaker, Tony "Bootboy" Veitch and Mark Watson, means that complacency (and ignorance) levels are sky-high right now---almost totally in the media, and also among some of the more easily led and less thoughtful members of the public.

There's a surreal quality to the displays of ignorance and over-confidence. Just listen to fair-weather fan Martin "Moron" Devlin on TV1 after last night's game: "There's only one team in the final, isn't there." In a pathetic display of indulgence, Nick Mallett, Dan Crowley and Anton Oliver felt compelled to murmur agreement---however hesitantly. Oliver in particular would have remembered the puerile and malicious behavior of Devlin following the 1999 semifinal demolition by France. Yet he felt compelled to nod in unison with the others.

The mood of elation continued this morning. One jubilant (and inebriated) fan was asked by National Radio's Morning Report how he felt about next weekend's final. The drone bawled drunkenly: "It'll be a walkover!"

Back in the Morning Report studio, Geoff Robinson solemnly (and gullibly) reported a clever piece of mensonge diplomatiques by French captain Thierry Dusautoir: "We may not have talent, but we have heart." Of course, the very opposite has been true for much of this tournament. 

Simon Mercep asked L'Equipe reporter Ian Borthwick and Sir Colin Meads to predict the result of the final. Borthwick declined, pointing out the great speed and skill of the Tricolors' loose forwards and the formidable power of the front five. Meads agreed, and observed that the French pack was the only pack with the power and skill to match the All Blacks' pack. They didn't even mention backs like Palisson, Mermoz, Clerc or Médard, each of them capable of tearing the All Blacks apart like they did to England a week ago. 

Those are facts that that the likes of Watson, Devlin and their substandard colleagues in the sports media won't even permit to be mentioned: to show anything less than total belief, and to show any knowledge of or respect for France will jinx the All Blacks. 

This all feels very like 1999, all over again. Worryingly, the loudest and most complacent voices in the sports media now are exactly the same voices as twelve years ago. Not one of them seems to have learned anything. 

Mo 
10/17/11
"There's no agnostics on my show! This is a 100 per-cent All Black
supporters zone," ranted Radio Sport journeyman Mark Watson last
Saturday night.

Hive-mind syndrome in the media, from the NZ Herald's absurd Wynne
"Sensible" Gray and Chris "Ratshit" Rattue down to fair-weather fans
like Murray Deaker, Tony "Bootboy" Veitch and Mark Watson, means that
complacency (and ignorance) levels are sky-high right now---almost
totally in the media, and also among some of the more easily led and
less thoughtful members of the public.

There's a surreal quality to the displays of ignorance and over-
confidence. Just listen to fair-weather fan Martin "Moron" Devlin on
TV1 after last night's game: "There's only one team in the final,
isn't there." In a pathetic display of indulgence, Nick Mallett, Dan
Crowley and Anton Oliver felt compelled to murmur agreement---however
hesitantly. Oliver in particular would have remembered the puerile and
malicious behavior of Devlin following the 1999 semifinal demolition
by France. Yet he felt compelled to nod in unison with the others.

The mood of elation continued this morning. One jubilant (and
inebriated) fan was asked by National Radio's Morning Report how he
felt about next weekend's final. The drone bawled drunkenly: "It'll be
a walkover!"

Back in the Morning Report studio, Geoff Robinson solemnly (and
gullibly) reported a clever piece of mensonge diplomatiques by French
captain Thierry Dusautoir: "We may not have talent, but we have
heart." Of course, the very opposite has been true for much of this
tournament.

Simon Mercep asked L'Equipe reporter Ian Borthwick and Sir Colin Meads
to predict the result of the final. Borthwick declined, pointing out
the great speed and skill of the Tricolors' loose forwards and the
formidable power of the front five. Meads agreed, and observed that
the French pack was the only pack with the power and skill to match
the All Blacks' pack. They didn't even mention backs like Palisson,
Mermoz, Clerc or Médard, each of them capable of tearing the All
Blacks apart like they did to England a week ago.

Those are facts that that the likes of Watson, Devlin and their
substandard colleagues in the sports media won't even permit to be
mentioned: to show anything less than total belief, and to show any
knowledge of or respect for France will jinx the All Blacks.

This all feels very like 1999, all over again. Worryingly, the loudest
and most complacent voices in the sports media now are exactly the
same voices as twelve years ago. Not one of them seems to have learned
anything. 
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Large Paddy 
10/18/11
That kind of stupid journalist is doing nothing more than putting his
team under huge pressure. He should always talk up the opposition.

The ABs will be bags of nerves taking the field. The French have
nothing to lose as no-one expects them to win (except me, who thinks
they might just do it, but I would be far from certain)

What they have going for them is a hugely powerful pack, great
runners, very good defence and a phenomenal placekicker. When they
click they can be unbeatable. 
denver_state_p...@hotmail.com 
10/18/11
On Oct 18, 6:24 am, Large Paddy <gol...@gmail.com> made some highly
pertinent observations:
> That kind of stupid journalist is doing nothing more than putting his
> team under huge pressure.
The players, and indeed most fans, do not respect these journalists.
It wasn't the all Black players or management that were complacent in
1999 or 2007.

>
> He should always talk up the opposition.
The All Blacks always do that anyway.

>
> The ABs will be bags of nerves taking the field. The French have
> nothing to lose as no-one expects them to win (except me, who thinks
> they might just do it, but I would be far from certain)
>
> What they have going for them is a hugely powerful pack, great
> runners, very good defence and a phenomenal placekicker. When they
> click they can be unbeatable.
That's a heretical view that is banned from talkback radio in New
Zealand.
Road_Hog 
10/19/11

"Mo" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:30787476-95d7-4f6a-85cc-4803181c558f@d33g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

>N.Z. sports journalists have learned nothing in the last twelve years

That's 'learnt' not 'learned', it's an irregular verb.

Uncle Dave 
10/19/11
- show quoted text -
I'm afraid to say, that much like "ise" and "ize", both seem acceptable
in common usage.  The demise of seemingly redundant vowels is surely
just around the corner...

UD 
Earldullthing 
10/19/11
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The Earl wishes to note in public that journalists write what they
expect their audience to want to read.  Successful radio djs are
successful because they say what they what their listeners want to
here.  If no one in New Zealand listened to them or read the newspaper
articles we are now constantly subjected to on here, then they would
have to find something more intelligent to comment on. 
Road_Hog 
10/19/11

"Uncle Dave" <david...@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:o66dnR9S3P5wMgDTnZ2dnUVZ7r2dnZ2d@bt.com...
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That doesn't excuse it though. There is a specific use for 'learn-ed' in
Commonwealth/British English, which relates to the legal profession. So
there is a real difference between 'learnt' and 'learned'.

mike 
10/19/11
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That's hear not here (shame on you didge) and radio journo's are only
DJs if they play a few tracks.  Whilst most seem to be broken records
that's not really the same thing.

Mike 
Earldullthing 
10/19/11
On Oct 18, 7:30 pm, mike <mikeloveschampagneandru...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
- show quoted text -
> >> Mermoz, Clerc or M dard, each of them capable of tearing the All
> >> Blacks apart like they did to England a week ago.
>
> >> Those are facts that that the likes of Watson, Devlin and their
> >> substandard colleagues in the sports media won't even permit to be
> >> mentioned: to show anything less than total belief, and to show any
> >> knowledge of or respect for France will jinx the All Blacks.
>
> >> This all feels very like 1999, all over again. Worryingly, the loudest
> >> and most complacent voices in the sports media now are exactly the
> >> same voices as twelve years ago. Not one of them seems to have learned
> >> anything.
>
> > The Earl wishes to note in public that journalists write what they
> > expect their audience to want to read.  Successful radio djs are
> > successful because they say what they what their listeners want to
> > here.  If no one in New Zealand listened to them or read the newspaper
> > articles we are now constantly subjected to on here, then they would
> > have to find something more intelligent to comment on.
>
> That's hear not here (shame on you didge) and radio journo's are only
> DJs if they play a few tracks.  Whilst most seem to be broken records
> that's not really the same thing.
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Earl has no idea why you might think that I am "Didge".  The Earl
thought that he was "Newport".  Does being "Didge" mean that I have
gone up in the world.  If the Earl starts swearing every other word
does that make me "Matua". 
10/19/11
 WorkHard Does the Earl think his words make sense? "They say what they what their listeners want to here."
10/19/11
 Road_Hog "Earldullthing" <earldu...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:16edeec7-e11c-47d2-ac5d-73e588b891be@w23g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
caspar milquetoast 
10/19/11
On 19/10/2011 4:47 AM, WorkHard wrote:

> Does the Earl think his words make sense?
>
> "They say what they what their listeners want to here."
It's a pity that fucking Newport didn't say what his listeners want to
hear. Which from him would be nothing.
10/20/11
 Earldullthing On Oct 19, 9:23 am, "Road_Hog" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote: > "Earldullthing" <earldullth...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
10/20/11
 Earldullthing The Earl presumes this is some illusion to the unfounded allegation that the Earl is "Newport". The Earl is however delighted to have been accussed of being two different people on the same thread. Is that some kind of record. As to making
10/20/11
 Uncle Dave No. UD
10/20/11
 WorkHard Yes. Especially with you when you write such nonsensical rubbish as, "They say what they what their listeners want to here".
10/20/11
 Greig Blanchett Lame didge. -- greig
10/20/11
 Earldullthing The Earl is eagerly antiipating when you have something original to say.
10/20/11
 Earldullthing > greig- Hide quoted text -
10/20/11
 WorkHard The Workhard is not eagerly "antipating" (whatever that is) for you to say anything sensible or original. It just aint gonna happen.
Earldullthing 
10/21/11
- show quoted text -
The Earl limits himself to saying anything sensible or original to
approximately once every every 17 posts.  The interesting point
perhaps to note is that some of the nonsense the Earl was spouting
weak's ago is now being repeated by other posters. 





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