Billy Bragg's "shocking lack of intelligence" (Jul. 8, 2019)

Jonathan Cook: Guilt of anti-semitism now needs no evidence Posted by Peter Cleall on July 8, 2019, 11:34 am https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2019-07-08/guilt-of-anti-semitism-now-needs-no-evidence/

Good look at the sewer of the state-corp-0-rat media....nm Posted by Keith-264 on July 8, 2019, 12:22 pm, in reply to "Jonathan Cook: Guilt of anti-semitism now needs no evidence" nm Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016 Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018

Revolting centrerists Jones, Armando (a satirist who has an MBE), Baddiel, Riley, yuk - nm Posted by psingh on July 8, 2019, 6:00 pm, in reply to "Good look at the sewer of the state-corp-0-rat media....nm" Nm

Billy Bragg out of his own mouth. Posted by George Brennan on July 8, 2019, 3:08 pm, in reply to "Jonathan Cook: Guilt of anti-semitism now needs no evidence" It is no longer contended that the much quoted passage from Chris Willamson was anti-Semitic Speech. They concede it is not even antisemitic by the broad anti-Palestinian anti-free speech IHRA definition which was accepted out of respect for "Jewish sensitivities" in the hope that this appeasement would make it all go away The great Jonathan Cook makes a generous attempt at guessing what Bragg et al thought Williamson was saying Here is what Bragg himself says. Half my kingdom to anyone who can name a more disgusting amalgam than that between Williamson and Carl Benjamin gb https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1146796126454128642

BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom Posted by Si on July 8, 2019, 3:25 pm, in reply to "Billy Bragg out of his own mouth." nm

Re: BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom Posted by dovetailjoint on July 8, 2019, 3:31 pm, in reply to "BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom" Bragg's utterances and the dreadful comparison he makes, leaping from Williamson to Benjamin, is incredibly depressing and outrageous. What's a shame is that Bragg doesn't seem to have clue how little knowledge or understanding he has.

Re: BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom Posted by turtleman on July 8, 2019, 6:41 pm, in reply to "Re: BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom" Carl Benjamin was joking. Yes, it was a tasteless joke. But those are the only kind that rape/genocide/misogyny/Jew baiters deserve. Self-righteous moralizers will always be humiliated. It is a cosmic law. turtleman

Re: BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom Posted by Si on July 8, 2019, 6:48 pm, in reply to "Re: BB made an utter arse of himself - he was roundly and deservedly panned for it - nom" I used to admire BB - many moons ago. Last time I saw him he was involved with the Breaking Rocks initiative set up by Joe Strummer shortly before Joe's untimely death. Pity, Joe never got to see the positive fruits of that intiative. The thing that surprised me most about BB's doubling-down thread was the shocking lack of intelligence and honesty - a revelation it was.

Re: Billy Bragg out of his own mouth. Posted by turtleman on July 8, 2019, 6:37 pm, in reply to "Billy Bragg out of his own mouth." Billy goes the way most self-proclaimed leftist do, in one form or other. Lovely, just lovely how he drones on about 'insensitivity.' Those that whine about other people's insensitivity are often the ones that have taken leave of their senses! turtleman

Re: Billy Bragg out of his own mouth. Posted by dan on July 8, 2019, 8:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Billy Bragg out of his own mouth." Turtleman goes the way most self-proclaimed christians do, in one form or other.

Ianucci OBE lacks comprehension or misunderstands? Does he? nm Posted by Jamie on July 8, 2019, 3:30 pm, in reply to "Jonathan Cook: Guilt of anti-semitism now needs no evidence" nm

Re: Ianucci OBE lacks comprehension or misunderstands? Does he? nm Posted by dovetailjoint on July 8, 2019, 3:37 pm, in reply to "Ianucci OBE lacks comprehension or misunderstands? Does he? nm" The mass hysteria characteristic of the witch-hunt can affect everyone when it's realeased. Powerful forces are at work that can sweep up everyone. I think it's a mistake to assume that cynicism is so widespread in public life and explains so much about individual behaviour. Rationality isn't as strong and deep-seated as people think. Feelings, emotions, dogmas are more powerful when 'hysteria' takes over.

Maybe, but Williamson's remarks and Cook's piece are pretty clear in intent. nm Posted by Jamie on July 8, 2019, 3:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Ianucci OBE lacks comprehension or misunderstands? Does he? nm" nm

I've heard reference to Willismson's 'pattern of behaviour': any idea what this means? nm Posted by marknadim on July 8, 2019, 8:15 pm, in reply to "Jonathan Cook: Guilt of anti-semitism now needs no evidence"