Saturday 14 December 2019

The ten worst Cabinet members (Aug. 31, 2003)

Morrissey Breen
1.) Marion Hobbs - Daffy, incompetent, always flustered, out of herdepth. And isn't she another of the persecutors of Peter Ellis?2.)  Ruth Dyson - Another Christchurch M.P. who's done nothing to help Peter Ellis. Picked one of dumber fights in history of New Zealand a few years ago, when came out against  footballer playing hurt, then assured  place in pantheon of political idiocy by almost immediately being busted for drunk driving.
3.) Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal. Then we'll talk
about gettin' you off this list. Kapai?

4.)  Phil Goff  - Utterly inert. Increasingly a figure of fun due to
grievous mishandling of Ellis case.

5.) Lianne Dalziel -  Nuts. Believes in witches.
6.) Mark Burton - Anyone catch this turkey doing his troubador act on Austin Mitchell's pavlova TV disaster last year?Embarrassment City, Utah.
7.) John Tamihere -  In 1999, made possibly worst, crassest maiden speech in history of New Zealand parliament - and, no, I haven't forgotten Pam Corkery's.
8.) Paul Swain - Once rose up to full five foot, five inch stature
and challenged someone in opposition thusly: "Don't you try THAT again, sonny!"

9.) Annette King - Hopeless. Hopeless. Hopeless.  
10.) Pete Hodgson - The farmers' friend. Not.







8/31/03paulsy
On 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
>1.)  Marion Hobbs - Daffy, incompetent, always flustered, out of her
>depth.  And isn't she another of the persecutors of Peter Ellis?
>
............

>
>10.) Pete Hodgson - The farmers' friend.  Not.

George Hawkins must be feeling like the happiest man alive.
8/31/03Roger Dewhurst

"paulsy" <pau...@dell.com> wrote in message
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Half-brain does not know if he is alive!
R


8/31/03Alun Thomas
"paulsy" <pau...@dell.com> wrote in message
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Do I need to start a 'Bring back (Margaret) Wilson' Campaign.

8/31/03Gordon
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, Morrissey Breen wrote:

> 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
> about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
Pity you attack the person and not his views/ideas.
--
Gordon
Google knows where to find things, ask at http://www.google.com
Works for me, will work for you, so be it.




8/31/03Denver Fletcher
"Alun Thomas" <atho...@e3.net.nz> wrote in message
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Do you run a mental hospital, by chance?
(If so, then "yes!")


8/31/03Denver Fletcher
"Gordon" <flas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, Morrissey Breen wrote:
>
> > 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
> > about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
>
> Pity you attack the person and not his views/ideas.

His views on Maori health seem to be *amply* encapsulated in his gross
laden weight.
To summarise, he seems to believe that it is best to eat whatever,
whenever, even if it kills you. The evidence is rather hard to conceal.
Pity that you can't get over political correctness and use some common
sense.



8/31/03Barry Lennox
On 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:An excellent and accurate list, but I do have to ask, why handicap
yourself by limiting it to ten!?

8/31/03Morrissey Breen
morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey Breen) - c'est moi! - wrote in message news:<fb3a0456.0308301901.639a3f33@posting.google.com>...
> 1.)  Marion Hobbs -....<SNIP>....
Make that:  THE WORST OF THE LOT IS PHIL GOFF.  I've just watched him,
trying, and failing, to be stony-faced and uphold Eichelbaum's
whitewash job of police and legal corruption in Christchurch.  Goff
lost his rag at interviewer Melanie Read at least twice during the
interview.
What a complete fool.

8/31/03Morrissey Breen
"Gordon" <flas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.08.31.06.15.46.95396@yahoo.com>...
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, Morrissey Breen wrote:
>
> > 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
> > about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
>
> Pity you attack the person and not his views/ideas.
Hey!  I didn't attack him at all.  I just told him to lose fifty
kilos, pronto.  I actually agree with his views, mostly.
8/31/03Denver Fletcher
"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was particularly appalled at his assertion that the conviction was about
the *CASE* against Peter Ellis, but that any appeal or royal commission
must be about *NEW EVIDENCE*.
The whole point of the furore over Peter Ellis' conviction is that the case
that was made did not include the presentation of relevant contradictory
evidence. When all the evidence is looked at, the safety of this conviction
is unquestionably compromised.
I don't know if Peter Ellis is a paedophile (although I doubt it) but I
know I would not want to find myself an accused in the hands of the alleged
justice system being propped up by Mr Goff.
Isn't a "Disclosure Interview" itself a testament to an assumption of
guilt?
Peter Ellis deserves an assumption of innocence, not because he *IS*
innocent (I don't pretend to know), but because that is his right as a
citizen.

(As an aside, I find it disturbing that a "professional counsellor" is
taken at her word when she says that the children must be believed, but
that when one of them recants a lawyer (!!) is asked to validate her
testimony, and reports back that the repudiation is not to be believed.
There is something awfully smelly about that little side-show, and from the
stench I suspect the presence of marine life.)






8/31/03Morrissey Breen
pau...@dell.com (paulsy) wrote in message news:<3f526d32...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>...
>
> George Hawkins must be feeling like the happiest man alive.
Actually, take out Tamihere and replace him with Hawkins.  Apart from
his idiotic maiden speech, Tamihere has been pretty darned impressive,
methinks.
8/31/03Acid

"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why isn't Wilson on the list?

8/31/03Joe
On 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
Breen) wrote:
>1.)  Marion Hobbs - Daffy, incompetent, always flustered, out of her
>depth.  And isn't she another of the persecutors of Peter Ellis?
>
Marion Hobbs employed Alison Locke as counsellor for Avonside Girls
High School.
When my wife and I went to 'meet the teachers' we were told by 3 of
the four teachers we met that they were concerned with the practice of
Alison Locke as school counsellor. We didn't bring the subject up, we
didn't even know what she was up to, so it must have been pretty bad
to have this concern on the minds of teachers that knew you did not
cross Marion Hobbs.
Of course the teachers knew what would happen to them if they took
there complaints to Marion Hobbs.
We didn't know.
But we paid the price for writing a letter to advise Marion Hobbs of
the concerns of the teachers, on their behalf.Counsellor grooming is something that every defence lawyer should
consider when handling a case of false accusation.
Peter Ellis is not the only person that Alison Locke was involved
where outrageous claims were made.
Cheers *
8/31/03Roger Dewhurst

"Gordon" <flas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, Morrissey Breen wrote:
>
> > 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
> > about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
>
> Pity you attack the person and not his views/ideas.
His bloated body is huge and obvious while his views and ideas are
miniscule.
R

>



9/1/03Tilly
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Perahps there should be a list of the worst ten cabinet ministers in the
last 25 years.
I nominate Ben Couch at the  top of the list.
Tilly
--
bri...@hotmail.com






9/1/03Whoknows
In article <vAi4b.132865$JA5.3...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
den...@paradise.net.nz says...
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If they won't do a Royal Commission on the Ellis case then they should
do one on the justice system (and I use that word loosely) in NZ.
Maybe they should make a law that anyone withholding information from
the court regarding a case is liable to prosecution e.g. the police and
prosecution do not use information gained that is contrary to their case
and should be made to put all ther facts out in open court.
And that should apply to the defence counsel as well, if the lawyer
learns of some info that is not in his clients favour they should still
be compelled to disclose it.
The idea is to find the TRUTH as far as I'm concerned.
I think the French inquisitorial system a better one where the judge is
there to ferret out the truth.
9/1/03rich...@hotmail.com
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:40:17 +1200, "Tilly" <climb...@hotmail.com>
wrote:<snip>

>> 4.)  Phil Goff  - Utterly inert.  Increasingly a figure of fun due to
>> grievous mishandling of Ellis case.
Sadly so, Phil Goff has been a good minister on a number of other
issues, but with this one he's totally lost the plot - his lack of
logic in the TV programme last night was appalling. He can't seem to
understand that people want a Royal Commission to look at flaws in the
system that have meant that complete evidence has not been able to be
considered (through court rules or enquiry terms of reference or
perhaps incompetence). The guilt or innocence of Peter Ellis based on
the restricted evidence is not the issue - the restriction on evidence
and the  discredited leading of children to gain some of the evidence
that was produced is.

>Perahps there should be a list of the worst ten cabinet ministers in the
>last 25 years.
>
>I nominate Ben Couch at the  top of the list.
>
>Tilly
There were a number of very poor ministers in the Muldoon cabinet,
which was widely believed to contain only those who would not be a
threat to the Prime Minister. One of the most effective for his party
and most destructive for the country was probably the 'Think Big'
minister. I'd rather any number of ministers made fools of themselves
(in the view of the media) changing their mind as they learn new
information, than one persuasive minister who makes totally wrong
decisions.
As for thinking that physical size (or on the other side
attractiveness) indicate the quality of thinking and decision making -
not even Paul Holmes is that shallow.
Rich





9/1/03Bruce Sinclair
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9/1/03Supergoof
"Gordon" wrote ...

> Morrissey Breen wrote:
>
> > 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
> > about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
>
> Pity you attack the person and not his views/ideas.
Exactly.
I read somewhere that he's lost 35kgs. Bloody good going!
It's not easy to change your lifestyle like that.

-rachel-




9/1/03Supergoof
"Denver Fletcher" wrote ...

> >  Morrissey Breen wrote:
> >
> > > 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
> > > about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
>
> His views on Maori health seem to be *amply* encapsulated in his gross
> laden weight.
> To summarise, he seems to believe that it is best to eat whatever,
> whenever, even if it kills you. The evidence is rather hard to conceal.
>
> Pity that you can't get over political correctness and use some common
> sense.
He's lost 35kgs by changing his lifestyle and eating habits, and hopes to be
a good example to fellow Maori.
Sounds admirable to me (how many pollies can you think of who set a good
example to others?)

-rachel-



9/1/03Denver Fletcher
"Supergoof" <gone.no@forwarding.address> wrote in message
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If it's true, then it IS admirable, to a degree.
It leaves open, for example, the question of how the hell he got that big
in the first place. I get off my arse when I go over 70 kilos, I don't wait
until I'm 140!
Like I said in the other part of this thread, Ben Couch was great, he had
no clues and did nothing at all: the perfect politician.
What was the woman from Gisborne, the one who was on the dole before benin
elected? She was great, too; didn't even turn up to parliament after her
maiden speech.
Give us more like that, I say.





9/1/03Joe
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Food for thought.
Thanks *
9/2/03Supergoof
"Denver Fletcher" wrote ...
> "Supergoof" wrote ...

>
> It leaves open, for example, the question of how the hell he got that big
> in the first place. I get off my arse when I go over 70 kilos, I don't
wait
> until I'm 140!
Like I said, it's bloody hard to change your lifestyle like that. And the
longer you've been doing it, the harder it is. The bigger you are, the
harder it is to exercise too. Plus of course there's a cultural factor at
work, it's even harder to change your habits when the rest of the whanau are
still enjoying good old boil-ups (I know this is a gross generalisation, but
it illustrates the point).
It sounds hard to believe, but many people don't realise quite how big
they've gotten until something gives them that wake-up call. Sure they keep
getting larger clothes, but for some reason it doesn't quite twig until it's
a seemingly insurmountable problem.
Then of course there are those who have yo-yo dieted all their lives and
just keep getting bigger and bigger as a result.


> What was the woman from Gisborne, the one who was on the dole before benin
> elected? She was great, too; didn't even turn up to parliament after her
> maiden speech.
Alamein Koopu? (sp?)

-rachel-






9/2/03Denver Fletcher
"Supergoof" <gone.no@forwarding.address> wrote in message
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> "Denver Fletcher" wrote ...
> > "Supergoof" wrote ...
> >
> > It leaves open, for example, the question of how the hell he got that
big
> > in the first place. I get off my arse when I go over 70 kilos, I don't
> wait
> > until I'm 140!
>
> Like I said, it's bloody hard to change your lifestyle like that. And the
> longer you've been doing it, the harder it is. The bigger you are, the
> harder it is to exercise too. Plus of course there's a cultural factor at
> work, it's even harder to change your habits when the rest of the whanau
are
> still enjoying good old boil-ups (I know this is a gross generalisation,
but
> it illustrates the point).
>
> It sounds hard to believe, but many people don't realise quite how big
> they've gotten until something gives them that wake-up call. Sure they
keep
> getting larger clothes, but for some reason it doesn't quite twig until
it's
> a seemingly insurmountable problem.
>
> Then of course there are those who have yo-yo dieted all their lives and
> just keep getting bigger and bigger as a result.

I understand the dynamics, I just don't agree that it relieves anyone of
the responsibility.


> > What was the woman from Gisborne, the one who was on the dole before
benin
> > elected? She was great, too; didn't even turn up to parliament after
her
> > maiden speech.
>
> Alamein Koopu? (sp?)

That's the one.




9/11/03Kerry
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:13:26 +1200, "Denver Fletcher"
<den...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:>"Gordon" <flas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:pan.2003.08.31.06.15.46.95396@yahoo.com...
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:01:24 -0700, Morrissey Breen wrote:
>>
>> > 3.)  Parekura Horomia - lose another fifty, pal.  Then we'll talk
>> > about gettin' you off this list.  Kapai?
>>
>> Pity you attack the person and not his views/ideas.
>
>
>His views on Maori health seem to be *amply* encapsulated in his gross
>laden weight.
>
>To summarise, he seems to believe that it is best to eat whatever,
>whenever, even if it kills you. The evidence is rather hard to conceal.
He looks terribly unwell lately.  He has lost stones.
Was the trip to Wakefield a stomach stapling?  I fear something much
worse

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Four be the things I'd been better without:
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10/10/16sharna...@gmail.com
Does anyone have a photo of Alison Locke? Also where can I find further info on her misconduct. Thanks 

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