Tuesday, 7 May 2019

"Me Too" divas ignore Ahed Tamimi (Feb. 2, 2018)



  1. Morrissey7
    I note that in all the “Me Too” blather at that awards ceremony last week, not one of those rich celebs pretending to be concerned for women’s rights uttered a single word in support of Ahed Tamimi.
    Not one.
    • red-blooded7.1
      First off, the issue for the “Me Too” movement is sexual abuse (with a bit of a sideline in exploring how sexism impacts women’s lives). It’s not every bad thing that ever happened to every female person. (And “blather”? Really?)
      Secondly, how widely known is this story (and especially in the Us, which tends to run a very pro-Isreali view)?
      • Morrissey7.1.1
        First off, the issue for the “Me Too” movement is sexual abuse (with a bit of a sideline in exploring how sexism impacts women’s lives).
        Of course Palestinian girls and women are not routinely harassed, terrorized, raped, and murdered by Israeli soldiers and settlers. Of course not. What the hell are all those Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights groups going on about?
        It’s not every bad thing that ever happened to every female person.
        Of course you’re correct. Palestinian girls and women don’t count. Of course a young woman and her family being persecuted by heavily armed soldiers has no relevance for the “Me Too” crowd. Of course not.
        (And “blather”? Really?)
        I guess you’re right. When they speak so sonorously about women’s rights, there is no reason why a Palestinian nobody should feature in their heartfelt orations. Of course those rich and privileged celebrities didn’t mention the persecution of this Palestinian girl for very good reasons. I’m sure you’ll remind us what those reasons were.
        In the same way, in 2013 RNZ National’s U.S. correspondent Jack Hitt was too busy to even mention the show trial of Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning. Really important things like Game of Thrones took priority….
        • red-blooded7.1.1.1
          And I’m sure they didn’t mention sharia law or genital mutilation, either, Morrisey. Women are abused in multiple ways and in all cultures. The people speaking at the Grammys were Americans, speaking to other Americans about their own culture.
          Complaining that they didn’t mention Palestine is like complaining that Women’s Refuges don’t also campaign about body image and the mental and physical harm it does to many women. They do their bit – they can’t do it all.
          • Morrissey7.1.1.1.1
            Idiot. As I suspected, you are viciously prejudiced, not merely ignorant.
            • SPC7.1.1.1.1.1
              What category of abuse of power does exercise of free speech to verbally bully others on a blog come under?
            • red-blooded7.1.1.1.1.2
              Excuse me? Where the hell does that come from? Prejudiced against whom? You’re the one calling women speaking out against sexual harassment “blathering”!
              As it happens, I’ve always supported the right of Palestinians to their own, free state. Can you point to a comment from me in the thread above that has shown me to be “viciously prejudiced”, please? How about one that’s shown me to be “ignorant”? Because I’d take your “blathering” label and say that shows a fair amount of both of those qualities.
              • Morrissey
                Sorry, red-blooded, I realize I made a terrible mistake in imputing those motives to you. I saw the words “sharia law” and “genital mutilation” and assumed you were accusing the Palestinians of advocating those things. The mistake was all mine, a result of my tendency to skim read and react, rather than carefully checking.
                I apologize to you for my hasty and foolish actions.
                • red-blooded
                  Thanks for being big enough to reconsider and apologise, Morrissey. It does make a difference. I have no problem with disagreement and argument (it’s at the heart of most discussions on this site), but I don’t like it when things get personal, so I appreciate you pulling back from that.
                  Go well.
      • Secondly, how widely known is this story (and especially in the Us, which tends to run a very pro-Isreali view)?
    • Thirdly, people who take a stand on one particular issue aren’t thereby obligated to take concurrent stands on other issues that Morrissey might feel they ought to.
      • Morrissey7.2.1
        No, of course not. Why should the persecution of a young girl even trouble the minds of people making fine speeches about the persecution of women and girls?
  2. mary_a8
    The actions of Lorde and Ahed Tamimi, have once again exposed the ongoing tyranny of Israel.
    Israel has to be reigned in and held accountable for its atrocities against the Palestinian state, as well as threatening legal action against any foreign nation which exercises free speech daring to point out how barbaric Israel really is.
    Zionism has been, still is and will always to be a threat to international peace if it is allowed to continue in its current aggressive form.
  3. SPC9
    Listen to the views expressed by the MK in this video, and understand the quite evident ambition to end Palestine.
    The strategy is to depopulate areas around Jewish settlements (use them to provoke fight or flight (resistance/resulting in imprisonment) and then reduce remaining Palestinians into a few catchments. With the economy strangled and foreign aid diminished then wait for people to migrate from the WB itself. At which point they will regard the remaining Arabs as Jordanians and deny them the vote when they annex the entire area.
  4. Keepcalmcarryon10
    Well I’m counter suing because pretzels don’t actually taste like anything.
  5. Eco Maori11
    Many thanks to Rihanna for getting the Australian government to donate $90 million to the cause of educating the mokos /grandchildren of OUR Papatunuku /World .Ka pai
    All the mokos of Papatunuku need a education and a lot of girls miss out on education because of the dominance of idiotic Men Kia kaha

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