- The Herald editorial has a say on it too. It makes a general observation:“he’s either with us or against us” is an unlovely insight into the tribal, old-school politics of some on the left.A few of the old school here might like to ponder on that.
millsy2.1.1
Nothing wrong with a bit of tribalism. Much better than pappy Blairism.The Mad Butcher is a traitor. If he supports John Key then he supports:The reduction of the state housing stock and tighening of state housing criteria, leading to the creation of slums,
The privatisation and Americanisation of our health system
The weakening of labour laws and protections, which will give employers the power to treat their workers like dirt
The destruction of our social safety net, leading to homelessness across the board
The privatisation of water services by councils, which will hit the poor the hardest
The privatisation of infrstructure, and possible sale to the Chinese
The loosening of standards with regards to air and water quality, leading to poor health among people
The sale of our farms to off shore ownersEtc.I personally would support a boycott of his stores.Spiker2.1.1.1
Wow, just….wow…..felix2.1.1.1.1
What do you find so “wow” exactly?Anything in that list you’d like to challenge?Or are you just having trouble with the jarring contrast between Key’s PR and his politics?
jagilby2.1.1.2
Please do keep going on… I love hearing all the baseless reasoning.Explaining is losing, you seriously can’t STFU for one minute and reflect to see the wood for the trees.
Just more evidence that you lot might as well be on another planet when it comes to convincing the electorate you should be running the country.Draco T Bastard2.1.1.2.1
What baseless reasoning? John Key has either already implemented those policies or said that they will be implemented next term.McFlock2.1.1.2.1.1
“explaining is losing”.
Smile, wave, and say “thankyou sir, may I have another?” There’s a winning strategy.
- Actually, I think it’s good that the left demonstrates some differences of opinions on such issues.for better or for worse people like himWhat people? I think it may be no accident that the Labour MPs who have been critical of Sir MB are women, and that the guys are more likely to either defend him or to resile from criticising him.I most like watching rugby union, but also enjoy watching League from time to time, as well as listening to Radio Sport on occasions. I have never taken to the MB and his rants – to me he is an unlikeable irritation. I suspect his appeal is largely to male sports fans and especially male League fans (which probably includes a lot of MSM journalists)… that hardly makes him a popular man of the people generally.
Anthony2.2.1
I’d say most of Louisa’s electorate like him, men and women. I take it you aren’t from South Auckland?It’s just a stupid issue to focus on when you are trying to win an election.- And what about his support for policies that will screw people in those areas?He. Is. A. Traitor.I don’t care if he gives to charities. Charities always pick and choose who they help, and make people jump through hoops. Look at Habitat for Humanity. we are better off bringing back Housing Corp mortgages and increasing the state housing stock rather than relying on those clowns. And I bet you that butcher boy has all his workers on a 90-day trial period,
Vicky322.2.2
I have never taken to the MB and his rants – to me he is an unlikeable irritation. I suspect his appeal is largely to male sports fans and especially male League fans (which probably includes a lot of MSM journalists)… that hardly makes him a popular man of the people generally.I despise organised sport generally (I am told that’s a serious character fault somewhat similar to kicking puppies – although I don’t do that) so I assess the MB on the basis of his ‘stores’ (cold, unpleasant and not particularly cheap) and his public persona – that of Shouty Man. I’ve learned by chatting to them, that he doesn’t pay his staff well enough to compensate them for a very unpleasant working environment, and muddled schedules, so I am very unimpressed with the man.
bemused2.3
“Darien should have stood by her comments. The world needs more people like her, who would stick it to the powerful in the name of the powerless.Mad Butcher, you are dirty stinking flithy traitor.”- Unlike Darien, I stand by my comments.And, I dont think anyone will squeal to my work about it, as I dont tell anyone where I work. My employer will probably laugh anyway, my work holds the position that what goes on in their workers life outside their work is their own business (apart from getting stoned in the morning before coming to work).
- So let me get this right, this idiot, Louisa Wall wont buy stuff from people who dont vote for her party? what an idiot.
Morrissey2.4.1
That football-hating, Palestinian-hating, Mad Butcher-boosting, mediocrity-loving dripBrett “God I hate Football” Dale seems to have worked himself up into a lather after hearing Louisa Wall criticize his half-witted hero…this idiot, Louisa Wall wont buy stuff from people who dont vote for her party what an idiot.You have a track record of posting up crude, foolish, ill-informed rants on a large number of topics. For you to call Louisa Wall, or anyone else for that matter, an “idiot” is irony indeed.By the way, you mis-spelled don’t and won’t.- Morrisey:I don’t hate Football, I love my football, go the all whites, and go the phoenix.I dont hate any Palestinian’s? I dont know any Palestinian’s for that matter, If your talking about that guy who is alleged to have sleazy behavior towards woman, well I hope that gets dealt with, it hasnt nothing to do with where he is from.If Louisa will only buy from business’s that will vote for her party, then I will call
her an idiot.Yes my spelling and grammar is awful.- Brett Dale is still bewildered.I don’t hate Football, I love my football,Ever since the World Cup started, you have been trumpeting more than normal how much you hate the game.go the all whites,Shows how much you know about football. The All Whites have (several seasons ago) transmogrified into the Ospreys. But, yes, they did have a glorious history, including wins over the All Blacks and more recently, the Wallabies….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/welsh/6088622.stmand go the phoenix.That’s a soccer team.I dont hate any Palestinian’sReally? Then I invite others to look at what you wrote in January 2009, as Palestinian hospitals and homes and people were being massively and systematically destroyed. As your several comments demonstrate, you were completely in favour of the massacre….
http://thestandard.org.nz/israel-a-failed-democracy/#comment-113176I dont know any Palestinian’s for that matterYou do but you’re just too insensitive to realize it. I am sure none of them has ever felt that they wanted to reveal their ethnicity to you, if you verbalize the sort of ignorant, hate-filled nonsense that you post on the internet.If your talking about that guy who is alleged to have sleazy behavior towards womanWhat on earth are you talking about?Yes my spelling and grammar is awful.Your spelling and grammar errors are trifling, compared to your mean-spirited and spurious comments about football, and, even worse, your callous and repeated statements of support for the perpetrators of mass murder.Ianupnorth2.4.1.1.1.1
Football is played with a round ball; NZ Soccer rebranded as NZ Football abut 6 years ago, you’ll only find ‘soccer’ in the USA.Rugby, on the other hand, was a game developed at a toff’s school by people who lacked the ability to kick a ball, so picked it up and ran; later the ball became oval shaped.- Football is played with a round ball;
Correct, but not only with a round ball. Several kinds of football use an oval ball, and two (American and Canadian football) even use an “oblate spheroid.”NZ Soccer rebranded as NZ Football abut 6 years ago,Soccer New Zealand changed its name to NZ Football in compliance with a mischievous prank by John “Possumhead” O’Neill, the new head of the Australian Soccer Federation, who did the same thing over there—for no other reason than to annoy his erstwhile Australian Rugby Union colleagues, who had just fired him.FIFA boss Sepp Blatter had been pleading for years with the ASF and Soccer New Zealand to change their names, but he had always been ignored. O’Neill managed to do it with his whimsical decree, however, manipulating Soccer New Zealand just like he did the New Zealand rugby bosses in 2002, when he wrested the hosting of the 2003 RWC off us.you’ll only find ‘soccer’ in the USA.
And Canada, and Japan, and Korea, and Australia and New Zealand, and throughout the Pacific Islands. And what was the name of the stadium that hosted the final of the World Cup in South Africa last year?Both New Zealand and Australian soccer bosses realized (and still do) that “football” is a contested term in both countries, though most people mean Rugby football or Australian Rules football.Rugby, on the other hand, was a game developed at a toff’s school by people who lacked the ability to kick a ball, so picked it up and ran;Nonsense, Ian. You seem like a bright guy, and I can’t believe that you would be dumb enough to swallow that Webb Ellis myth. That puts you in the same company as boofheads like Murray (“Too Many Dark Faces”) Deaker and the gin-swillers at the International Rugby Board.later the ball became oval shaped.
That was so it could be drop-kicked further.Kicking is an integral part of rugby football, as you know perfectly well.
- That’s a soccer team.Point of order! In the USA and NZ it’s called soccer, in the rest of the world, it’s football! I loathe team sports, but my son is a Phoenix fanatic, and projectile vomits when he hears people call it “soccer”. (I have been forced to realise that now, 2011, New Zealanders do all “talk American” (as predicted in the Listener in 1986), …Open Orifice’s NZ spell check is exactly the same as American English, and red-lines all the British (formerly NZ) spellings I use, for example….but that doesn’t mean I have to like it…
- Point of order! In the USA and NZ it’s called soccer,Invalid. You forgot, or neglected, to add Canada, and Japan, and Korea, and Australia, and the islands of the Pacific.my son is a Phoenix fanatic, and projectile vomits when he hears people call it “soccer”.Your son must hate being alive then. Perhaps he needs to realize what country he lives in.
- AFAIK, it’s been soccer in NZ only in the last 7-8 years, since we all started speaking American.. My son doesn’t hate living in NZ (he likes it much more than I do) but he’s even more sensitive to what things are called than I am…
The Voice of Reason…
Just the opposite, Vicky32. It’s been soccer since records began (and I know, having contributed to researching the history of the game in my town back to 1923). The move to standardising the game as football began about a decade ago, but has not been forced on the yanks because of the cultural dominance of their version of football (Gridiron). I do like the Guardian football correspondents’ habit of jokingly referring to the USA’s Major League Soccer as SoccerBall! (TM).
I’m comfortable with both versions, though, especially as soccer as a word comes from the abbreviation of Association Football, which clearly indicates it was football before it was soccer.
Have to agree about the bastardisation, sorry, americanisation, of our language though. I cringe every time I see the Jackal post his Asshole of the Week as if we were living in Shitkicker, Missouri or I hear the letter z mispronounced by our maleducated youth. And don’t get me started on the TV weather crew referring to ‘rain on the Westside’ or other such gang related bollocks. Grrrrr!- Have to agree about the bastardisation, sorry, americanisation, of our language though. I cringe every time I see the Jackal post his Asshole of the Week as if we were living in Shitkicker, Missouri or I hear the letter z mispronounced by our maleducated youth. And don’t get me started on the TV weather crew referring to ‘rain on the Westside’ or other such gang related bollocks. Grrrrr!Thanks for clarifying, VoR! I am glad to be sure..
I first remember hearing ‘z’ mispronounced by the maleducated, in 1996, whilst working in an Intermediate school library… If people talking about their or someone else’s ass I always pretend to believe they mean donkey!
But my un-favourite at the moment is ‘store’. A store is a warehouse. A retail outlet is a shop… online ‘stores’ particularly annoy me as they can’t be a ‘store’ in any sense, without physical premises!
Monday, 5 February 2018
Discussion re the Mad Butcher, and about football. (Oct. 1, 2011)
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