You thought Joh Bjelke-Petersen was New Zealand's worst, grossest,
most distasteful export ever to the Lucky Country? Well, think again.
To our embarrassment, we must point out that the dishonest right wing
dupe responsible for the following atrocity is also a New
Zealander....
most distasteful export ever to the Lucky Country? Well, think again.
To our embarrassment, we must point out that the dishonest right wing
dupe responsible for the following atrocity is also a New
Zealander....
When leaders become easy targets
by GERARD HENDERSON, February 17, 2004
http://www.smh.com.au/
Annotated by MORRISSEY BREEN, Daisycutter Sports
by GERARD HENDERSON, February 17, 2004
http://www.smh.com.au/
Annotated by MORRISSEY BREEN, Daisycutter Sports
Those who are too quick to brand politicians as liars are acting
against democracy. [1]
against democracy. [1]
Attacks on politicians - and other public officer holders - as rorters
and/or liars have considerable populist appeal. They are easy to make
but difficult to refute. [2] And they appeal to individuals who feel
resentment about those who hold high positions. [3]
and/or liars have considerable populist appeal. They are easy to make
but difficult to refute. [2] And they appeal to individuals who feel
resentment about those who hold high positions. [3]
The modern democratic system is not based on power but, rather, on
authority. [4] It is misguided to regard the likes of George Bush,
Tony Blair and John Howard as wielding power in the normally accepted
meaning of the term - if only because what they can do is constrained
by various legislative and judicial procedures. [5]
authority. [4] It is misguided to regard the likes of George Bush,
Tony Blair and John Howard as wielding power in the normally accepted
meaning of the term - if only because what they can do is constrained
by various legislative and judicial procedures. [5]
Rather, Messrs Bush, Blair and Howard exercise authority. Elected
leaders govern, in between elections, on the basis of the legitimacy
which comes from election. [6] Consequently, attacks on politicians
as a profession are essentially assaults on the political system
itself - because they challenge the very legitimacy on which, in
democratic societies, authority is based. [7]
leaders govern, in between elections, on the basis of the legitimacy
which comes from election. [6] Consequently, attacks on politicians
as a profession are essentially assaults on the political system
itself - because they challenge the very legitimacy on which, in
democratic societies, authority is based. [7]
As the Opposition Leader, Mark Latham, had promised to reform the
Federal MPs' generous superannuation scheme...
Federal MPs' generous superannuation scheme...
....<Snip several paragraphs of stupendously boring superannuation
stuff>....
stuff>....
During the 1999 referendum campaign, Costello warned fellow Coalition
MPs not to run the don't-trust-a-politician line. Addressing a
function in Perth on November 3, 1999 he declared: "I don't think
we're ever going to develop a future for this country by denigrating
people who engage in public service." It was sound advice. [8]
MPs not to run the don't-trust-a-politician line. Addressing a
function in Perth on November 3, 1999 he declared: "I don't think
we're ever going to develop a future for this country by denigrating
people who engage in public service." It was sound advice. [8]
During the referendum campaign, opposition to politicians was voiced
by the extremes of right and left, who opposed an Australian head of
state for different reasons. Today it is the left (but not exclusively
so) which leads the politicians-cannot-be-trusted movement. This has
peaked in recent months following the inability of the Coalition of
the Willing [9] to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. [10]
by the extremes of right and left, who opposed an Australian head of
state for different reasons. Today it is the left (but not exclusively
so) which leads the politicians-cannot-be-trusted movement. This has
peaked in recent months following the inability of the Coalition of
the Willing [9] to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. [10]
It seems, on the evidence, that Saddam Hussein's regime may have
disposed of its WMD before the invasion of Iraq by the United States
and Britain. [11] Of itself, this does not invalidate the overthrow
of Saddam's murderous regime. [12] For Iraq was required by mandatory
UN resolutions to prove it had abandoned its WMD supplies and
programs. This, for whatever reasons, it failed to do. [13]
disposed of its WMD before the invasion of Iraq by the United States
and Britain. [11] Of itself, this does not invalidate the overthrow
of Saddam's murderous regime. [12] For Iraq was required by mandatory
UN resolutions to prove it had abandoned its WMD supplies and
programs. This, for whatever reasons, it failed to do. [13]
These days it is commonly heard that Bush, Blair and Howard lied about
Iraq's WMD. [14] There is no evidence to support this assertion. [15]
It's possible that intelligence - an inexact science at the best of
times - got it wrong. [16] This is not an unusual occurrence. For
example, before the first Gulf war in 1990-91 intelligence sources
grossly underestimated Iraq's chemical and biological WMD, along with
its nuclear capacity.
Iraq's WMD. [14] There is no evidence to support this assertion. [15]
It's possible that intelligence - an inexact science at the best of
times - got it wrong. [16] This is not an unusual occurrence. For
example, before the first Gulf war in 1990-91 intelligence sources
grossly underestimated Iraq's chemical and biological WMD, along with
its nuclear capacity.
The US and Britain were not alone. In 1990 the then head of the
International Atomic Energy Agency, Hans Blix, maintained that Iraq
had an "exemplary" record in this area. In fact at the time, Saddam
was busily engaged in developing a nuclear weapons program. During an
interview on the ABC Radio National Breakfast program last month, John
Dauth, Australia's ambassador to the UN, said that Blix told him
before the invasion he believed Iraq did have WMD supplies. Blix was
(publicly) wrong in 1990 and he may have been (privately) wrong in
2003. However, few would accuse him of dishonesty on either count. Yet
this is an accusation made daily - without evidence [17] - of the
elected leaders of the US, Britain and Australia.
International Atomic Energy Agency, Hans Blix, maintained that Iraq
had an "exemplary" record in this area. In fact at the time, Saddam
was busily engaged in developing a nuclear weapons program. During an
interview on the ABC Radio National Breakfast program last month, John
Dauth, Australia's ambassador to the UN, said that Blix told him
before the invasion he believed Iraq did have WMD supplies. Blix was
(publicly) wrong in 1990 and he may have been (privately) wrong in
2003. However, few would accuse him of dishonesty on either count. Yet
this is an accusation made daily - without evidence [17] - of the
elected leaders of the US, Britain and Australia.
Michael Moore in the US and John Pilger in Britain and Australia,
among others, have created lucrative careers out of alleging that the
leaders of Western democracies are amoral liars. [18] In fact,
attacks on the profession of politics are attacks on representative
government itself. Populism is the enemy of democracy. [19]
among others, have created lucrative careers out of alleging that the
leaders of Western democracies are amoral liars. [18] In fact,
attacks on the profession of politics are attacks on representative
government itself. Populism is the enemy of democracy. [19]
Gerard Henderson is executive director of the Sydney Institute. [20]
FOOTNOTES.......
[1] Henderson immediately sets himself up as a concerned defender of
democracy. In fact, of course, the opposite is true.
[2] Difficult to refute when the evidence against you is so
overwhelming, as it is for Bush, Blair and their faithful "marshall"
John Howard.
[3] Attempting to dismiss critics as "envious".
[4] Wrong. Noam Chomsky has authority; George W. Bush has power.
Power, and the ability to misuse that power, which we also call
corruption, is what enabled Tony Blair and his man Hutton to get away
with the travesty called the Hutton Report.
[5] Nonsense. Bush and Blair ignored the United Nations, and rode
roughshod over the parliamentary and legal systems in their own
countries. Aided by ineffective, confused opposition parties, they
literally got away with murder.
[6] One of the three was, of course, not elected.
[7] Henderson, self-declared champion of democracy, is seriously
suggesting that it is wrong to criticise politicians.
[8] HYPOCRISY ALERT!!! Henderson, that champion of responsible,
civilised behaviour, the eloquent and committed defender of the
virtues of public service, never uttered a single word of protest when
Bush and his faithful deputy dawgs Blair and Howard were relentlessly
denigrating Kofi Annan and the United Nations.
[9] Shouldn't that be "Coalition of the Killing"?
[10] Remarkably, in spite of all the recent revelations, Henderson
appears to think that he can get away with repeating this lie!
[11] Henderson knows that was the case before the illegal invasion.
As did Bush, Blair and Howard.
[12] Henderson conveniently ignores the fact that the United States,
and Australia and Britain, SUPPORTED the murderous Saddam Hussein
regime throughout the 1980s.
[13] Of course, Henderson fails to explain how that justified the
United States' invasion of Iraq.
[14] It is more than "commonly heard"; it is an established fact.
Hell, even President Bush admits it. Blair says he didn't really know
what was going on. As for Howard...
[15] Of course, there is. The evidence is overwhelming. Henderson
obviously thinks that, if Blair can get away with barefaced lies, then
he can too. He forgets that Blair has power; Henderson has not. And
judging by this risibly substandard article, Henderson has precious
little authority, either.
[16] Now where have we heard THIS before?
[17] The evidence of these three lying is irrefutable.
[18] It's an indication of Henderson's imprecise mind and his lack of
verbal acuity that he over-writes so hideously. Why qualify the word
"liars" with "amoral"? Did Henderson think at all before he tapped
out that lumbering sentence?
[19] Most people would suggest, I think, that lying politicians
starting wars based on lies is the real threat to democracy.
[20] Remarkably, this Sydney Institute is called a "Think Tank". Does
this mean that Gerard Henderson sees himself as a "thinker"?
[1] Henderson immediately sets himself up as a concerned defender of
democracy. In fact, of course, the opposite is true.
[2] Difficult to refute when the evidence against you is so
overwhelming, as it is for Bush, Blair and their faithful "marshall"
John Howard.
[3] Attempting to dismiss critics as "envious".
[4] Wrong. Noam Chomsky has authority; George W. Bush has power.
Power, and the ability to misuse that power, which we also call
corruption, is what enabled Tony Blair and his man Hutton to get away
with the travesty called the Hutton Report.
[5] Nonsense. Bush and Blair ignored the United Nations, and rode
roughshod over the parliamentary and legal systems in their own
countries. Aided by ineffective, confused opposition parties, they
literally got away with murder.
[6] One of the three was, of course, not elected.
[7] Henderson, self-declared champion of democracy, is seriously
suggesting that it is wrong to criticise politicians.
[8] HYPOCRISY ALERT!!! Henderson, that champion of responsible,
civilised behaviour, the eloquent and committed defender of the
virtues of public service, never uttered a single word of protest when
Bush and his faithful deputy dawgs Blair and Howard were relentlessly
denigrating Kofi Annan and the United Nations.
[9] Shouldn't that be "Coalition of the Killing"?
[10] Remarkably, in spite of all the recent revelations, Henderson
appears to think that he can get away with repeating this lie!
[11] Henderson knows that was the case before the illegal invasion.
As did Bush, Blair and Howard.
[12] Henderson conveniently ignores the fact that the United States,
and Australia and Britain, SUPPORTED the murderous Saddam Hussein
regime throughout the 1980s.
[13] Of course, Henderson fails to explain how that justified the
United States' invasion of Iraq.
[14] It is more than "commonly heard"; it is an established fact.
Hell, even President Bush admits it. Blair says he didn't really know
what was going on. As for Howard...
[15] Of course, there is. The evidence is overwhelming. Henderson
obviously thinks that, if Blair can get away with barefaced lies, then
he can too. He forgets that Blair has power; Henderson has not. And
judging by this risibly substandard article, Henderson has precious
little authority, either.
[16] Now where have we heard THIS before?
[17] The evidence of these three lying is irrefutable.
[18] It's an indication of Henderson's imprecise mind and his lack of
verbal acuity that he over-writes so hideously. Why qualify the word
"liars" with "amoral"? Did Henderson think at all before he tapped
out that lumbering sentence?
[19] Most people would suggest, I think, that lying politicians
starting wars based on lies is the real threat to democracy.
[20] Remarkably, this Sydney Institute is called a "Think Tank". Does
this mean that Gerard Henderson sees himself as a "thinker"?
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You thought Joh Bjelke-Petersen was New Zealand's worst, grossest,
> most distasteful export ever to the Lucky Country?
You mean the guy who put Qld on the map and made it the place people migrate
to from the other states...and NZ?
to from the other states...and NZ?
<snip other ravings>
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"Flange" <fla...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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the place people migrate
> to from the other states...and NZ?
> to from the other states...and NZ?
I thought that place was WA.
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A moron caling himself, stupidly, "Flange" <fla...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<403215ec$0$3128$afc38c87
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Queensland is a lovely state. It was a national embarrassment through
the 1970s and 80s.
the 1970s and 80s.
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Morrissey Breen says
> FOOTNOTES.......
> [1] Henderson immediately sets himself up as a concerned defender of
> democracy. In fact, of course, the opposite is true.
> [2] Difficult to refute when the evidence against you is so
> overwhelming, as it is for Bush, Blair and their faithful "marshall"
> John Howard.
> [3] Attempting to dismiss critics as "envious".
> [4] Wrong. Noam Chomsky has authority; George W. Bush has power.
> Power, and the ability to misuse that power, which we also call
> corruption, is what enabled Tony Blair and his man Hutton to get away
> with the travesty called the Hutton Report.
> [5] Nonsense. Bush and Blair ignored the United Nations, and rode
> roughshod over the parliamentary and legal systems in their own
> countries. Aided by ineffective, confused opposition parties, they
> literally got away with murder.
--
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In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
> FOOTNOTES.......
> [1] Henderson immediately sets himself up as a concerned defender of
> democracy. In fact, of course, the opposite is true.
Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
> [2] Difficult to refute when the evidence against you is so
> overwhelming, as it is for Bush, Blair and their faithful "marshall"
> John Howard.
Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
> [3] Attempting to dismiss critics as "envious".
Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
> [4] Wrong. Noam Chomsky has authority; George W. Bush has power.
> Power, and the ability to misuse that power, which we also call
> corruption, is what enabled Tony Blair and his man Hutton to get away
> with the travesty called the Hutton Report.
Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
> [5] Nonsense. Bush and Blair ignored the United Nations, and rode
> roughshod over the parliamentary and legal systems in their own
> countries. Aided by ineffective, confused opposition parties, they
> literally got away with murder.
Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
and so on and so on..
What exactly is the point?
Of course you're welcome to hold and express any opinion you
want Mowwisey, but I'm damned if I can see any point in such
long winded utterances of factless subjective viewpoints.
want Mowwisey, but I'm damned if I can see any point in such
long winded utterances of factless subjective viewpoints.
As far as real argument goes, I can never find anything
substantial enough to challenge.
substantial enough to challenge.
You know, not knowing the difference between opinion and fact is
clear evidence of brainwashing.
clear evidence of brainwashing.
Why don't you bring something new to the table, and tell readers
who is responsible for your condition, and where and when it
occurred.
who is responsible for your condition, and where and when it
occurred.
At least that would be a bit interesting, as well as
revealing...
revealing...
--
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In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
"One man with courage is a majority." Thomas Jefferson
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why? Try to be specific.
Queenslanders were never embarassed. The majority thought Joh did a great
job - and said so at the ballot box.
Have a look around....most of the major water storage facilities (dams) -
built in Joh's term. Most of the present non-federal highway system- built
in Joh's term. The states rail system...built or upgraded in Joh's term.
Most of the major regional development....in Joh's term. Establishment of
most of Qld's secondary industries...in Joh's term. Building of most number
of schools....Joh's term.
Queenslanders were never embarassed. The majority thought Joh did a great
job - and said so at the ballot box.
Have a look around....most of the major water storage facilities (dams) -
built in Joh's term. Most of the present non-federal highway system- built
in Joh's term. The states rail system...built or upgraded in Joh's term.
Most of the major regional development....in Joh's term. Establishment of
most of Qld's secondary industries...in Joh's term. Building of most number
of schools....Joh's term.
I could keep going on. All that has happened in the many Labor years since
Joh is a couple of football stadiums and a growth in "government services".
No major infrastructure projects and no vision.
Joh is a couple of football stadiums and a growth in "government services".
No major infrastructure projects and no vision.
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In article <403215ec$0$3128$afc3...@
fla...@hotmail.com says...
fla...@hotmail.com says...
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Breen is the guy who has to see his name up in lights, every message has
to have his name in the title, stuck up git that he is
to have his name in the title, stuck up git that he is
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"Morrissey Breen" <morriss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Well, Gerard Henderson, who is one of the most sensible and astute
commentators in the country would have an intelligence about 1000 points
higher than yours. What Henderson says is worth saying. The constant attacks
on politicians are immature and hypocritical. Would you prefer that there
were no politicians at all and we went back to a monarchy? How would you
suggest we run a democracy without people standing up and saying "I want to
run for office."? If you don't like the calibre of politicians then stand
for office yourself. If won't, or can't, then don't criticise someone else
for doing what you can't or won't do.
commentators in the country would have an intelligence about 1000 points
higher than yours. What Henderson says is worth saying. The constant attacks
on politicians are immature and hypocritical. Would you prefer that there
were no politicians at all and we went back to a monarchy? How would you
suggest we run a democracy without people standing up and saying "I want to
run for office."? If you don't like the calibre of politicians then stand
for office yourself. If won't, or can't, then don't criticise someone else
for doing what you can't or won't do.
More specificially, saying that Bush, Blair and Howard "lied" about weapons
in Iraq is just childish name-calling and to suggest that that egregious
nong Noam Chomsky has "authority" is absurd.
in Iraq is just childish name-calling and to suggest that that egregious
nong Noam Chomsky has "authority" is absurd.
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"Flange" <fla...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<403286a4$0$4249$afc38c87
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First of all, Flange, please accept my apologies for referring to you
as a moron. Clearly that was unfair and incorrect. My comment about
Bjelke-Petersen was not about his economic management, but about the
brutal suppression of civil liberties that occurred in Queensland when
he was Premier.
as a moron. Clearly that was unfair and incorrect. My comment about
Bjelke-Petersen was not about his economic management, but about the
brutal suppression of civil liberties that occurred in Queensland when
he was Premier.
I actually regarded him as highly entertaining. I still treasure the
memory of him cracking an Irish joke at a reception for the Premier of
Ireland in 1985. The stony faces of the Irish delegation contrasted
with Joh's faltering grin, and the nervous laughter of some of his
staff. Pure televisual magic, not to be matched for comic impact
until Father Jack Hackett's stupendously sarcastic apology to Bishop
Brennan.
memory of him cracking an Irish joke at a reception for the Premier of
Ireland in 1985. The stony faces of the Irish delegation contrasted
with Joh's faltering grin, and the nervous laughter of some of his
staff. Pure televisual magic, not to be matched for comic impact
until Father Jack Hackett's stupendously sarcastic apology to Bishop
Brennan.
Am I the only person to see a similarity between Sir Joh and Father
Jack?
Jack?
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Redbaiter <do...@email.me> reveals a new (and wrong) mantra in message
news:<40326eca$1...@news.orcon.
news:<40326eca$1...@news.orcon.
>
> Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
> Opinion, as unsubstantiated as always..
[This sentence repeated five times]
Redbaiter, I had occasion just last month to kick your asssssssss over
this lazy repetition tactic, which achieves nothing except confirm the
impression you are unable to engage moi in serious debate. I really
thought you were better than that.
this lazy repetition tactic, which achieves nothing except confirm the
impression you are unable to engage moi in serious debate. I really
thought you were better than that.
>
> Of course you're welcome to hold and express any opinion you
> want Mowwisey, but I'm damned if I can see any point in such
> long winded utterances of factless subjective viewpoints.
> Of course you're welcome to hold and express any opinion you
> want Mowwisey, but I'm damned if I can see any point in such
> long winded utterances of factless subjective viewpoints.
Redbaiter, read my post again. My points are concisely made, and they
are specific. Unlike Gerard Henderson's pathetic excuse for an
article.
are specific. Unlike Gerard Henderson's pathetic excuse for an
article.
>
> As far as real argument goes, I can never find anything
> substantial enough to challenge.
> As far as real argument goes, I can never find anything
> substantial enough to challenge.
Yes you can, and you know it. It's Henderson that has nothing
substantial, or even interesting, to say.
substantial, or even interesting, to say.
>
> You know, not knowing the difference between opinion and fact is
> clear evidence of brainwashing.
> You know, not knowing the difference between opinion and fact is
> clear evidence of brainwashing.
Dead right! You and me both, brother! And isn't Fox and Friends a
disgrace, for that very reason! Still, it's encouraging to see one of
the most notorious Fox staffers, Bill O'Reilly, displaying some
courage and integrity, and 'fessing up that he was misguided. Give
him another couple of months, and he'll be stating what he has only
half-admitted so far: that Bush lied to Congress and the American
people, deliberately and relentlessly, to stampede them into
supporting his (and Rumsfeld's, Perle's and Wolfowitz's) illegal
invasion of Iraq.
disgrace, for that very reason! Still, it's encouraging to see one of
the most notorious Fox staffers, Bill O'Reilly, displaying some
courage and integrity, and 'fessing up that he was misguided. Give
him another couple of months, and he'll be stating what he has only
half-admitted so far: that Bush lied to Congress and the American
people, deliberately and relentlessly, to stampede them into
supporting his (and Rumsfeld's, Perle's and Wolfowitz's) illegal
invasion of Iraq.
>
> Why don't you bring something new to the table, and tell readers
> who is responsible for your condition, and where and when it
> occurred.
> Why don't you bring something new to the table, and tell readers
> who is responsible for your condition, and where and when it
> occurred.
Lame crack at moi. I really thought you were better than that.
>
> At least that would be a bit interesting, as well as revealing...
> At least that would be a bit interesting, as well as revealing...
Okay, Redbaiter, just for you....
COMING SOON TO A NEWSGROUP NEAR YOU!!!!!!!
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Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote in message news:<MPG.
>
> Breen is the guy who has to see his name up in lights, every message has
> to have his name in the title, stuck up git that he is
> Breen is the guy who has to see his name up in lights, every message has
> to have his name in the title, stuck up git that he is
Oh, come on now, Mainlander! Who was it that put my name up in lights
on this thread, eh? Clue: it certainly was not moi.....
on this thread, eh? Clue: it certainly was not moi.....
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morriss...@yahoo.com says...
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Yes.
Clearly you should have referred to yourself as a moron.
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So how many threads are there going at the moment with your name in the
title? Several. Is it that idiot Steve that does it?
title? Several. Is it that idiot Steve that does it?
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My favourite Johism is:
"We'll burn that bridge when we get to it."
Perhaps he was misquoting Adlai Stevenson, who said:
"We'll jump off that bridge when we get to it."
Of course, Adlai was trying to be funny.
Izzy
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> [...] to kick your asssssssss over [...]
If you had more class, you would have used "arse".
--Peter Metcalfe
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> In article <fb3a0456.04021...@
> morriss...@yahoo.com says...
>
>> [...] to kick your asssssssss over [...]
>
> If you had more class,
> morriss...@yahoo.com says...
>
>> [...] to kick your asssssssss over [...]
>
> If you had more class,
. . . or clarse . . .
> you would have used "arse".
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Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:
> My favourite Johism is:
>
> "We'll burn that bridge when we get to it."
>
> Perhaps he was misquoting Adlai Stevenson, who said:
>
> "We'll jump off that bridge when we get to it."
>
> Of course, Adlai was trying to be funny.
>
> "We'll burn that bridge when we get to it."
>
> Perhaps he was misquoting Adlai Stevenson, who said:
>
> "We'll jump off that bridge when we get to it."
>
> Of course, Adlai was trying to be funny.
And the difference is the Moron knows that its respectively code
for murdering "Tens of thousands of Aborigines and, well, "Tens
of thousands" of any other group as defined by his irradiated
brain electronically implanted with post hypnotic suggestions by
the CIA (he's a mate of Joe Vialls).
for murdering "Tens of thousands of Aborigines and, well, "Tens
of thousands" of any other group as defined by his irradiated
brain electronically implanted with post hypnotic suggestions by
the CIA (he's a mate of Joe Vialls).
JC
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"John Cawston" <rewa...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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Izzy
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"Ian McFadyen" <imcf...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<gyBYb.134$m14....@
> >
> > [20] Remarkably, this Sydney Institute is called a "Think Tank". Does
> > this mean that Gerard Henderson sees himself as a "thinker"?
>
> Well, Gerard Henderson, who is one of the most sensible and astute
> commentators in the country would have an intelligence about 1000 points
> higher than yours.
> for office yourself. If won't, or can't, then don't criticise someone else
> for doing what you can't or won't do.
> >
> > [20] Remarkably, this Sydney Institute is called a "Think Tank". Does
> > this mean that Gerard Henderson sees himself as a "thinker"?
>
> Well, Gerard Henderson, who is one of the most sensible and astute
> commentators in the country would have an intelligence about 1000 points
> higher than yours.
Snort! What a stoooo-pid thing to say! I've just stripped down one
of his "serious" articles to show Henderson's almost total lack of
analysis, integrity and wit. I wonder if Mr McFadyen is able to
specify how, in the face of such evidence, Henderson is "about 1000
points higher than" mine. I await his (no doubt) intelligent and
rational reply with interest.
of his "serious" articles to show Henderson's almost total lack of
analysis, integrity and wit. I wonder if Mr McFadyen is able to
specify how, in the face of such evidence, Henderson is "about 1000
points higher than" mine. I await his (no doubt) intelligent and
rational reply with interest.
>
> What Henderson says is worth saying. The constant attacks
> on politicians are immature and hypocritical. Would you prefer that there
> were no politicians at all and we went back to a monarchy?
> What Henderson says is worth saying. The constant attacks
> on politicians are immature and hypocritical. Would you prefer that there
> were no politicians at all and we went back to a monarchy?
So.... politicians are to be trusted, and elevated above the common
herd. We must not question them. That would be "immature". Does
this guy work for Fox News?!?!?!?!?
herd. We must not question them. That would be "immature". Does
this guy work for Fox News?!?!?!?!?
>
> How would you
> suggest we run a democracy without people standing up and saying "I want to
> run for office,"? If you don't like the calibre of politicians then stand> How would you
> suggest we run a democracy without people standing up and saying "I want to
> for office yourself. If won't, or can't, then don't criticise someone else
> for doing what you can't or won't do.
Aaaaaahhhh! So we can't criticise or question politicians, no matter
how disgusting or dishonest they have been proved to be. No, that
would be "immature". Instead, we must join one of the corrupt and
compromised organisations that have commandeered the political process
and BECOME ONE OF THEM!!!
how disgusting or dishonest they have been proved to be. No, that
would be "immature". Instead, we must join one of the corrupt and
compromised organisations that have commandeered the political process
and BECOME ONE OF THEM!!!
>
> More specificially, saying that Bush, Blair and Howard "lied" about weapons
> in Iraq is just childish name-calling
> More specificially, saying that Bush, Blair and Howard "lied" about weapons
> in Iraq is just childish name-calling
As is underlined by their intelligence services virtually every day,
they did lie. Mr McFadyen knows that too. Does it threaten some
fragile sense of his own identity to admit the truth? I'm assuming
that he is not one of John Howard's insiders, so he has no reason to
keep on lying. So why DOES he?
they did lie. Mr McFadyen knows that too. Does it threaten some
fragile sense of his own identity to admit the truth? I'm assuming
that he is not one of John Howard's insiders, so he has no reason to
keep on lying. So why DOES he?
>
> and to suggest that that egregious nong Noam Chomsky has "authority" is absurd.
> and to suggest that that egregious nong Noam Chomsky has "authority" is absurd.
Ha! Gerard Henderson - genius. Chomsky - "egregious nong". The
world is in awe at the rhetorical power exhibited by this exciting new
analyst!
world is in awe at the rhetorical power exhibited by this exciting new
analyst!
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| "Ian McFadyen" <imcf...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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| "Ian McFadyen" <imcf...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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| > and to suggest that that egregious nong Noam Chomsky has
"authority" is absurd.
|
| Ha! Gerard Henderson - genius. Chomsky - "egregious
nong". The
| world is in awe at the rhetorical power exhibited by this
exciting new
| analyst!
"authority" is absurd.
|
| Ha! Gerard Henderson - genius. Chomsky - "egregious
nong". The
| world is in awe at the rhetorical power exhibited by this
exciting new
| analyst!
As they should be. Show me a more egregious nong.
Izzy
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Gerard Henderson atrociously dissected by Morrissey Breen
Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote in message news:<MPG.
> > >
> > > Breen is the guy who has to see his name up in lights, every message has
> > > to have his name in the title, stuck up git that he is
> >
> > Oh, come on now, Mainlander! Who was it that put my name up in lights
> > on this thread, eh? Clue: it certainly was not moi.....
>
> So how many threads are there going at the moment with your name in the
> title? Several.
> > > Breen is the guy who has to see his name up in lights, every message has
> > > to have his name in the title, stuck up git that he is
> >
> > Oh, come on now, Mainlander! Who was it that put my name up in lights
> > on this thread, eh? Clue: it certainly was not moi.....
>
> So how many threads are there going at the moment with your name in the
> title? Several.
True. But only a few of them initiated by this writer (moi).
>
> Is it that idiot Steve that does it?
> Is it that idiot Steve that does it?
Errrrrrrrr.... no.
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