w...@freenet.co.nz (WeeWillyWonka) tries, unwisely, to be clever in
message news:<40f06193...@news.
message news:<40f06193...@news.
>
> While NZ leftists on this newsgroup advocate total surrender to
> terrorism,
> While NZ leftists on this newsgroup advocate total surrender to
> terrorism,
Man, are you confused! The "leftists" advocate standing up to
terrorism. It's the likes of yourself and the National party that
advocate total surrender to the number one terrorist state in the
world.
terrorism. It's the likes of yourself and the National party that
advocate total surrender to the number one terrorist state in the
world.
>
> the Israelis, who live in the real world, have been dealing
> toughly to terrorism and its sources,
> the Israelis, who live in the real world, have been dealing
> toughly to terrorism and its sources,
(Terrorists like Rachel Corrie R.I.P. They leave the New
York-accented "settler" terrorists alone.)
York-accented "settler" terrorists alone.)
>
> and scoring notable successes.
> and scoring notable successes.
(Such as killing thousands of Palestinian women and children, and
demolishing tens of thousands of Palestinian homes.)
demolishing tens of thousands of Palestinian homes.)
>
> The extract below shows how well the Israeli policy of targetting
> The extract below shows how well the Israeli policy of targetting
[sic!]
>
> terrorist leaders
> terrorist leaders
(Who cunningly disguise themselves as Palestinian women and children.)
>
> and preventing terrorist....
> and preventing terrorist....
...<Snip blather>....
....<Snip obscene Zionist P.R.>....
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The leftists want to hold the terrorists' hand and tell
them about their unfortunate childhood. The "root
causes" folks.
them about their unfortunate childhood. The "root
causes" folks.
As Hamas says, "we don't want to kill you so you will
give us something, we just want to kill you."
give us something, we just want to kill you."
> (Terrorists like Rachel Corrie R.I.P. They leave the New
> York-accented "settler" terrorists alone.)
Yes, Rachel Corries as a terrorist supporter and pretty
much a lunatic.
much a lunatic.
> > and scoring notable successes.
> (Such as killing thousands of Palestinian women and children, and
> demolishing tens of thousands of Palestinian homes.)
> demolishing tens of thousands of Palestinian homes.)
The Isralis' do not target non-combatants, the PLO, Hamas and
Hezbollah do.
Hezbollah do.
> > The extract below shows how well the Israeli policy of targetting
> [sic!]
Spelling flame? You must be joking.
> > terrorist leaders
> (Who cunningly disguise themselves as Palestinian women and children.)
But they don't target women and children as the PLO
does. The percentage of murdered Israelis of the old,
women and children is much, much higher than those of
the Palestinians. The Palestinian terrorists hide among
children. They are putric cowards.
does. The percentage of murdered Israelis of the old,
women and children is much, much higher than those of
the Palestinians. The Palestinian terrorists hide among
children. They are putric cowards.
-TOE
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:44:54 GMT, w...@freenet.co.nz (WeeWillyWonka)
wrote:
wrote:
So the way to beat terrorists is to become terrorists?
That'll help.
...tom
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It has. Even before this last intafada Israeli authorities were saying with
some frustration that reprisals work, the more the better. The Palestinians
and their masters in the Moslem countries have never varied in their desire
to see Israel gone, dead and buried. The wars and the intafadas come and go,
as they have for over 50 years and the desire to kill Israel remains as
strong as ever. And why not? Its a democracy buried in the heart of
authoritarianism.
some frustration that reprisals work, the more the better. The Palestinians
and their masters in the Moslem countries have never varied in their desire
to see Israel gone, dead and buried. The wars and the intafadas come and go,
as they have for over 50 years and the desire to kill Israel remains as
strong as ever. And why not? Its a democracy buried in the heart of
authoritarianism.
JC
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attacking the occupiers?
If the occupiers killed civilians, women and children as part of their
military actions, even if the non combatants were clearly not
targetted and were collateral damage, would you feel that made the
enemies non combatants fair game?
military actions, even if the non combatants were clearly not
targetted and were collateral damage, would you feel that made the
enemies non combatants fair game?
For myself, I don't know the answers to those questions for sure. I'd
like to think I wouldn't behave like that, but as I dont live in
Palestine, I don't know how I would be if I had to live like them.
like to think I wouldn't behave like that, but as I dont live in
Palestine, I don't know how I would be if I had to live like them.
...tom
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Palestinians have their lands stolen and are forced into poverty. Even
streams are diverted away from the Palestinians.
streams are diverted away from the Palestinians.
No wonder every Palestinian child dreams of becoming a suicide bomber.
They got nothing else to live for.
They got nothing else to live for.
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"Occupiers" is a poor term. The areas of Israel and Palestine have nearly
always been "occupied" over the milennia. One group, the Jews, have always
regarded the area as occupied by themselves, albeit under defeat, and have a
paper trail of their views going back millenia. The other, the Palestinians,
have effectively nothing until the state of Israel was formed. Virtually all
their claims and resistance is a forein Moslem construct. Virtually all
their finance and idealism comes from outside the region.
always been "occupied" over the milennia. One group, the Jews, have always
regarded the area as occupied by themselves, albeit under defeat, and have a
paper trail of their views going back millenia. The other, the Palestinians,
have effectively nothing until the state of Israel was formed. Virtually all
their claims and resistance is a forein Moslem construct. Virtually all
their finance and idealism comes from outside the region.
>
> If the occupiers killed civilians, women and children as part
> of their military actions, even if the non combatants were
> clearly not targetted and were collateral damage, would you
> feel that made the enemies non combatants fair game?
> If the occupiers killed civilians, women and children as part
> of their military actions, even if the non combatants were
> clearly not targetted and were collateral damage, would you
> feel that made the enemies non combatants fair game?
No. But then, I've never been the tool of barbaric and totalitarian regimes.
>
> For myself, I don't know the answers to those questions for
> sure. I'd like to think I wouldn't behave like that, but as I
> dont live in Palestine, I don't know how I would be if I had
> to live like them.
The current intafada is over, the Palestinian economy shattered by denial to
the Israeli economy, the activists hated and feared, the Palestinian
Authority and its leader accused of conspiracy, corruption, indifference,
terrorism and incompetance.
the Israeli economy, the activists hated and feared, the Palestinian
Authority and its leader accused of conspiracy, corruption, indifference,
terrorism and incompetance.
Palestinians sort of agree with you, they dont know how they got sucked into
such a disaster. But one thing they do know, they are sick of it, they want
back to the Israeli economy, they want the oldest terrorist in the world and
his free spending wife gone, his goons gone, the outside totalitarian
influences gone and the Mullahs gone.
such a disaster. But one thing they do know, they are sick of it, they want
back to the Israeli economy, they want the oldest terrorist in the world and
his free spending wife gone, his goons gone, the outside totalitarian
influences gone and the Mullahs gone.
They may even want the "honor" killings gone, child suicide bombers,
parades with 9 year old children carrying Kalashnikovs gone, young men and
women dipping their hands in Israeli blood gone, children covering rocket
firers gone, forced bussing of schools of children to hot spots gone, using
UN ambulances to shift armed terrorists about the city gone, terrorists only
appearing in public among children gone and most of all, they want the cult
of death gone.
parades with 9 year old children carrying Kalashnikovs gone, young men and
women dipping their hands in Israeli blood gone, children covering rocket
firers gone, forced bussing of schools of children to hot spots gone, using
UN ambulances to shift armed terrorists about the city gone, terrorists only
appearing in public among children gone and most of all, they want the cult
of death gone.
Amazing as it sounds, Palestinians want life back to normal, inclusion in
the Israeli economy, supporting the fence that improves security for both
sides, putting up with Israel, rebuilding their GDP per capita and regaining
the confidence and patronage of their European friends.
the Israeli economy, supporting the fence that improves security for both
sides, putting up with Israel, rebuilding their GDP per capita and regaining
the confidence and patronage of their European friends.
JC
>
> ...tom
>
> ...tom
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:09:25 +1200, K T T <some...@microsoft.com.nz>
wrote:
>No wonder every Palestinian child dreams of becoming a suicide bomber.
>They got nothing else to live for.
wrote:
>No wonder every Palestinian child dreams of becoming a suicide bomber.
>They got nothing else to live for.
Sounds like they have more to live for than you do, since you see no
need to resist them. What's it like to be so totally useless?
need to resist them. What's it like to be so totally useless?
willy
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:54:51 +1200, steve <st...@nevernowut.org.nz>
wrote:
>Morrissey Breen wrote:
>> Man, are you confused! The "leftists" advocate standing up to
>> terrorism. It's the likes of yourself and the National party that
>> advocate total surrender to the number one terrorist state in the
>> world.
>
>....while doing all they can to create and recruit more followers for Bin
>Laden.
wrote:
>Morrissey Breen wrote:
>> Man, are you confused! The "leftists" advocate standing up to
>> terrorism. It's the likes of yourself and the National party that
>> advocate total surrender to the number one terrorist state in the
>> world.
>
>....while doing all they can to create and recruit more followers for Bin
>Laden.
You leftist wankers think you have some kind of "meta" view of people,
don't you? The Arabs are allowed "genuine" emotional responses which
involve killing lots of people, and you leftist wankers blame it all
on Bush or some other punching bag of the day. What you overlook is
that the terrorists will kill you "meta" super-ethical ivory tower
fuckwits just as dead as all the rest of their victims. And no one
deserves it more.
don't you? The Arabs are allowed "genuine" emotional responses which
involve killing lots of people, and you leftist wankers blame it all
on Bush or some other punching bag of the day. What you overlook is
that the terrorists will kill you "meta" super-ethical ivory tower
fuckwits just as dead as all the rest of their victims. And no one
deserves it more.
Yeah, let the poor downtrodden Arabs kill hordes of Europeans,
provided those victims are all leftist scum like you. Leave the
normal people out of your evil machinations.
provided those victims are all leftist scum like you. Leave the
normal people out of your evil machinations.
willy
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"TOE" <thenright@komBOINKcast.nYet> blithered in message
news:<EM2dnXRmOY3...@
>
> > (Terrorists like Rachel Corrie R.I.P. They leave the New
> > York-accented "settler" terrorists alone.)
>
> Yes, Rachel Corries
>
> The Isralis' do not target non-combatants,
news:<EM2dnXRmOY3...@
>
> > (Terrorists like Rachel Corrie R.I.P. They leave the New
> > York-accented "settler" terrorists alone.)
>
> Yes, Rachel Corries
[sic!]
> as a terrorist supporter and pretty much a lunatic.
A lunatic, was she? How about we let others decide for themselves....
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/
More about the Israeli government's hit on Rachel corrie here....
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/
And if you can stand a sequential slide show of the murder, click
HERE....
http://www.thenausea.com/
HERE....
http://www.thenausea.com/
>
> The Isralis' do not target non-combatants,
Why, SURE they don't target women and children! Heck no....
http://www.islam-online.net/
http://www.islam-online.net/
....<Snip more illiterate, ignorant raving>....
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"John Cawston" <rewa...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message news:<ccql1e$fml$1...@lust.ihug.
....<Snip insane defence of fifty years of Israeli terror>....
>
> Its
> Its
[sic!]
>
> a democracy buried in the heart of authoritarianism.
>
> JC
> a democracy buried in the heart of authoritarianism.
>
> JC
"Democracy"? It's a pariah state, and it has only got LESS democratic
since the days when it was the ONLY country that enjoyed warm
relations with apartheid South Africa. Tell Mordecai Vanunu that
Israel is a "democracy"!
since the days when it was the ONLY country that enjoyed warm
relations with apartheid South Africa. Tell Mordecai Vanunu that
Israel is a "democracy"!
A democracy-lovin' Israeli soldier (look at the evidence of peace
behind him)....
http://www.islam-online.net/
behind him)....
http://www.islam-online.net/
Detailed breakdown of daily Israeli breaches of ceasefire....
http://www.p-p-o.net/Eng/2002/
http://www.p-p-o.net/Eng/2002/
Some excoriating commentary on Israeli aggression....
http://www.aljazeerah.info/
http://www.aljazeerah.info/
How Israel brought its "democracy" to Jenin in 2002....
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
http://poetry.rotten.com/
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