Sunday, 16 June 2019

France24: Assange biographer Andrew Fowler interviewed (Jun. 12, 2019)

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    France24: Assange biographer Andrew Fowler interviewed
    Posted by margo on June 12, 2019, 6:56 pm







      2nd video: The US is applying its jurisdiction to other countries
      Posted by margo on June 12, 2019, 7:17 pm, in reply to "France24: Assange biographer Andrew Fowler interviewed"





        He is absolutely right about this despite lawyers denying it. How is it possible to
        Posted by CJ on June 12, 2019, 10:37 pm, in reply to "2nd video: The US is applying its jurisdiction to other countries"

        extradite anyone for activities outside the US unless the victims are deemed to know what the US laws are they are accused of contravening.
        It's bad enough to track the laws in the country you are living never mind those countries in which there extradition arrangements.

        cheers


        UN Rapporteur Nils Melzer: How public humiliation works
        Posted by margo on June 12, 2019, 9:46 pm, in reply to "France24: Assange biographer Andrew Fowler interviewed"

        @NilsMelzer 

        "How public humiliation works: On 11 April Julian Assange was mocked for his beard throughout the world. During my visit, he explained
        to us that his shaving kit had been deliberately taken away three months earlier"




          I see "rape charges" and "hiding in the embassy" from F24 got a free ride nm
          Posted by CJ on June 12, 2019, 10:32 pm, in reply to "France24: Assange biographer Andrew Fowler interviewed"



        Saturday, 15 June 2019

        Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a typical White House press secretary (Jun. 16, 2019)

        1. A14
          My thoughts and prayers to those affected by the plane collision over Hood Aerodrome, Masterton.
          • Macro14.1
            OMG! I did used to fly out of Hood way back. In fact did my first solo there and my PPL.
            I remember my first solo – not only because it was my first solo, but for a very similar reason.  On your down wind leg apart from doing the normal pre landing checks on the aircraft you are also looking out for other aircraft . Naturally you are looking out for aircraft to the right and to the left and above and behind. On the approach as you descend you are watching airspeed height and timing your turn to line up with the runway. Well I landed safely and came to a stop turning to the left to clear the runway before heading back to the club house when I saw almost directly behind me a DC3 from James Aviation, used for top dressing, landing just behind me! It had come in on a direct approach low down – no standard circuit at 1000ft as one is supposed to do on an uncontrolled airfield like Hood. Gave me one hell of a fright!
            It's been a bad weekend for aircraft crashes. There was one earlier on up by Coromandel as well.
        2. Morrissey15
          She expressed shock that Trump spoke crudely about women, but apparently she was not shocked that her own husband had a kill list.

        Sunday, 9 June 2019

        Yossi Melman: I scooped Julian Assange, now I’m on his enemy list (Mar. 26, 2012)

        I scooped Julian Assange, now I’m on his enemy list

        by YOSSI MELMAN, International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, Mar. 26, 2012
        https://www.icij.org/blog/2012/03/i-scooped-julian-assange-now-im-his-enemy-list/
        A few weeks ago I awoke to find out that from a professional journalist I had overnight turned into an “information mule”.
        This unusual definition appeared in a press release sent by WikiLeaks in regard to a cyber assault and exposure of emails from Stratfor, a Texas-based private corporation which, according to its website, provides “geopolitical analysis of international affairs”.
        It was a clumsy effort by Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, to smear my name and my reputation by portraying me as someone who has “channeled tips to the Mossad”.
        I have known Fred Burton, a senior researcher at Stratfor, since he contacted me four years ago to ask my views regarding a book he was writing on the mysterious murder in July 1973 of Colonel Joe Alon, Israel’s Air Force Attaché in Washington.
        That was enough for Mr. Assange, who awaits a court decision in London to be extradited to Sweden to face charges of rape. As a professional propagandist who believes in conspiracies, he is a master of innuendo.
        My “relations” with Mr. Assange began a year ago. He phoned and offered me an interview for my paper, the Israeli daily Haaretz. I agreed. A few days later he called again and attached strings and conditions. He demanded that he would be granted the right to censor the interview before publication and that no questions would be asked about references he had made about the nature of Jews. In return he promised to provide me and my paper with new documents which were yet not published.
        My editors and I rejected his offer. Instead I was assigned by Haaretz to try to get the WikiLeaks documents from other sources. Within a few weeks I succeeded. I brought back to my newsroom a disk containing all the documents which were in Julian Assange’s possession – 250,000 U.S. State Department cables which contain nearly 30 million words. I gained access to them by hard-working journalism without violating any law in any country.
        In April 2011 Haaretz published a series of articles of more than a hundredstories of interest to Israel, Israelis and the Middle East.  In Mr. Assange’s paranoid view this was paramount to a conspiracy to “move WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables to Israel”.
        Hours before publication Mr. Assange called me and my editors and demanded to stop the publication. He had the chutzpah to claim that the documents belonged to him and if we published them we would be infringing his “intellectual property”. No less. In between his calls he cursed my mother and called me an S.O.B.
        Because of our legitimate and professional journalistic work I am now added to the long list of Mr. Assange’s enemies. The list not only includes governments, armies, intelligence agencies and corporations but also prestigious media outlets such as The New York Times, The Guardian and others.
        I am proud to be on this list.
        Yossi Melman is an Israeli ICIJ member who specializes in security and intelligence matters.

        Saturday, 8 June 2019

        Andrew McConnell interview wrecked by Noelle McCarthy's dreadful ignorance (May 25, 2019)

        What should have been an interesting and enlightening interview about a Gaza documentary was wrecked by Noelle McCarthy's dreadful ignorance 
        RNZ National, Saturday 25 May 2019, 11:10 a.m.
        Andrew McConnell is a serious and decent Irishman, who has made a compelling documentary about life in the blockaded and terrorized Gaza Strip. Unfortunately, he was interviewed about this fraught subject by Noelle McCarthy. Short of Dr David Cumin or Dame Lesley Max, it would be hard to select a harsher, less sympathetic interviewer. This was typical McCarthy: crass, indolent, ignorant. Masochists might like to listen to the whole thing [1], but here's a selection of the lowlights….
        NOELLE McCARTHY: One of the most intractable conflicts on Earth… Places where there are, y'know, intractable situations….. Israel on one side, Egypt on the other, Hamas in charge. …. Gaza is full of fashion, and cafes full of poetic men saying "Hello my pomegranate"….. 
        ANDREW McCONNELL: Growing up in Northern Ireland, in Fermanagh and Enniskillen, has given me an empathy for other people who live under conflict… The Irish have an affinity with the Palestinians. … 
        NOELLE McCARTHY: It doesn't engage with BOTH SIDES, Andrew. Israel is just seen from afar. Hamas is NOT CLEAN. The men you see with machine-guns….
        ANDREW McCONNELL: It's not a political movie.
        NOELLE McCARTHY: It's indivisible from the political context, isn't it.
        ANDREW McCONNELL: We stand by the film. 
        NOELLE McCARTHY: How has it played in America? You played it at Sundance, didn't you? 
        ANDREW McCONNELL: Most people were surprised, and shocked. They asked why do we not see more of this on our media? [2]
        NOELLE McCARTHY: There were moments when I wanted to see the other side. Would it have been possible? Or was that always gonna be outside of your scope? All we see is young men throwing stones, it's always described as "asymmetric warfare"…..
        [2] ANSWER: Because the American media are full of people like Noelle McCarthy.

        David Cumin’s farrago of lies went unchecked yesterday (Oct. 7, 2016)

        1. Morrissey14
          As Diane Robertson and Paul Casserly seethed in enforced silence,
          David Cumin’s farrago of lies went unchecked yesterday

          The Panel, RNZ National, Friday 7 October 2016, 4:20 p.m.
          Jesse Mulligan, Paul Casserly, Diane Robertson, Megan Whelan
          http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thepanel/audio/201819149/gaza-blockade
          Anyone who listened to the light chat show The Panel on Thursday would have come in for a pleasant surprise. Instead of Jim “Lord Haw Haw Haw” Mora or his dismally ill-prepared regular substitute Jesse “Mmmm, mmmm” Mulligan, there were three intelligent and serious people in the studio: Jon Bridges, Golnaz Bassam-Tabar, and Ellen Read. This was a stroke of good fortune, given that the big story of the day was the outlaw Israeli regime’s interception, in international waters, of the ship Zaytouna-Oliva, which was full of gravely menacing peace activists, including Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan and a New Zealand member of parliament. Usually on such an occasion, the guests happen to be of the calibre of Neil Miller or Mark Inglis or Chris Wikaira or John Barnett: people who are either ideologically committed to the Holy State or so intellectually incurious that they have nothing useful to say on the matter.
          Thursday’s Panel, though, was different. When they were asked to comment on the kidnapping, there was none of the normal mealy-mouthed obfuscation, or the verbal flannel (“it’s a very COMPLEX situation”) or the callous and unfunny jokes that usually make listening to this program such a dispiriting experience. Golnaz Bassam-Tabar in particular spoke candidly of how the people of the Gaza enclave have been been suffering from an “illegal siege, for nearly ten years now, that has crippled Gaza, that has blocked aid supplies, has blocked food supplies, construction supplies, medical supplies.” Ellen Read, though clearly not as well informed on the matter as Golnaz, made some earnest comments, as did host Jon Bridges.
          Sadly, however, this oasis of decency was not destined to last for long. Yesterday Jesse Mulligan was back in the hosting chair, and it was transmission pretty much as normal. Also listening to Golnaz Bassam-Tabar’s revolutionary act of speaking truthfully on RNZ National had been one David Cumin, of the right wing New Zealand Jewish Council. No doubt he and several other angry pro-Israel activists lost no time in putting their views across to RNZ receptionists, producers, hosts and, of course, of Radio New Zealand chairman (and erstwhile Panel guest) Richard Griffin. As a result, David Cumin was extended an uncontested “right of reply”, with the Panel guests obviously instructed not to utter a single word, and the host not permitted to do anything other than read out the questions. David Cumin was thus free to heap ridicule on Marama Davidson, to distort, and tell outright lies, without fear of contradiction….
          JESSE MULLIGAN: Now yesterday on The Panel, Jon Bridges and the Panelists discussed the detention in Israel of Green Party M.P. Marama Davidson, who was on a protest ship attempting to reach GAZA. As you may have heard, Marama Davidson has now been RELEASED from a prison in central Israel and is flying back to New Zealand and is expected to arrive tomorrow morning. The Gaza situation is a very COMPLEX one, as you’ll probably KNOW [nervous snicker], and it causes a great DEAL of DEBATE. And yesterday one of our Panelists referred to the Palestinians as being under an illegal SIEGE. David Cumin from the New Zealand Jewish Council is with us now, and David, welcome to the SHOW, and in your, ahhhh, view, IS it an illegal siege?
          DAVID CUMIN: Hi-i-i, Jesse, thanks for having me on. Ahhhh, no-o-o, um, the choice of WORDS that have been used, ahhhhh, just like Marama describing herself as being KIDNAPPED, uh, or held hostage, ahh, are really designed to proVOKE more than anything, um, and I think, it’s not only my view but it’s, um, the view of more, ummm, senior people than me that the blockade is LEGAL. In fact, new Zealand’s own, ahhh, Sir Geoffrey Palmer led a report to the U.N. that found not only is the maritime blockade LEGAL, ahh, but it was—and these are HIS words—“a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea.” Uh, so-o-o-o it’s not just my view, the blockade IS legal, and I think that it’s a really important point, ah, that everyone should understand, uh, as opposed, as to the word “siege”, ah, I don’t think it’s accurate to describe the movement of fifteen thousand PEOPLE each MONTH, and two thousand truckloads of food per WEEK as a siege. Ahh, those are the numbers that travel between Israel and Gaza. Ah, so-o-o, y’ow I just think they’re the wrong words that were being used.
          JESSE MULLIGAN: Okay, it was also claimed yesterday that Gaza is an open-air mass prison of suffering under the guise of security for Israel, and we do know conditions there can be pretty grim. There’s a sea and air blockade, and high unemployment, but what’s your perspective on that?
          DAVID CUMIN: Sure. So, er, uh, aGAIN, I think that it’s important to note that the, um, the U.N. has found that the blockade is LEGAL, and it’s a legitimate security MEASURE, to keep Israelis SAFE, basically. Um, and so I think when you say there’s a “guise” of security, it belies the fact that there are being rockets that are fired into Israel, there are TUNNELS that are being built, ahhhhm, to, to, um, commit terror attacks. Ahhh, and so withOUT, errr, border security and the maritime blockade, ahh, the Israeli people would be in grave DANGER. Errrr, Hamas has a, a charter that calls for the destruction of Israel. Um, and I think that the important point in the Palmer report was that that charter was being ENACTED by thousands of rockets being fired on Israeli citizens. So, errr, there’s no “guise of security” here, it’s a reality, and it’s a reality that hasn’t STOPPED. Ahh, on the morning that the, the boat Marama was on was intercepted, there was a rocket that was fired and landed in a city in Israel. So-o-o, uh, y’know, we need to keep that in mind I think that there’s a RE-E-EAL security THREAT here that, um, is making the, the situation COMPLEX.
          JESSE MULLIGAN: Mara D-, er, Marama Davidson is on her way home now, what are YOUR thoughts to travel as part of the protest flotilla?
          DAVID CUMIN: [snickers sardonically] Heh heh. Huh! To be honest, I’m really disappointed that a New Zealand politician would so-o-o, ahhh, UNASHAMEDLY decide to-o-o VIOLATE international law, uh, a-and, uh, violate another country’s sovereignty, just for the sake of some media attention. Ahhhh, it, it’s also come to light that the people that she’s associated herself with, ahhh, are really NOT promoters of PEACE, um, there’s one who created a video game to shoot Israelis. Ahhh, a couple of the women on, on the boat that she’s with blamed Israel for the nine eleven attacks and the more recent terror attacks in Nice and Munich. Um, we know that Kia Ora Gaza, the group that helped Marama from New Zealand, has voiced support for violence against Israelis, and the destruction of the Jewish state, so, you know, it’s really sad that these are the sort of values that Marama is, is showing, and I don’t think that they reflect the New Zealand public.
          JESSE MULLIGAN: Give us your perspective on the best way to DEAL with this blockade. It’s clearly not ideal for the people of Gaza, what would you see happen?
          DAVID CUMIN: Ahhhh, it’s not ideal for the people of Gaza, I don’t think it’s ideal for the people of ISRAEL either. Um, so we’ve got to remember that in two thousand and FIVE, Israel unilaterally withDREW from the Strip, um, and at that TIME there was, y’know, access for people to freely travel and, and Israelis enjoyed the BEACH and the people of Gaza enjoyed, um, working in Israel and traveling across. Ahhhh, unfortunately Hamas took over, ahh, control and with the increase in rocket attacks, uh, Israel had to PROTECT itself. So, um, errrrr, there’s still, as I said, fifteen thousand people each month and two thousand truckloads a week that get through, so it’s NOT a siege by ANY means, and it’s, it’s not a prison by ANY means, but look, I think the SOLUTION, Jesse, that you’re asking is, is really quite straightforward: WHEN THERE CEASES TO BE A SECURITY THREAT, THERE WILL CEASE TO BE THE NEED FOR A BLOCKADE. So as soon as, as the rockets stop firing, the tunnels stop being built, and the threat to Israeli lives is STOPPED, there will be a solution.
          JESSE MULLIGAN: All right, Doctor David Cumin from the New Zealand Jewish Council, thanks so much for your time today.
          DAVID CUMIN: Thank you, I appreciate it.
          —————————————————————————-
          Those readers interested in informing themselves about the situation in Gaza, and the outrage that is the Palmer-Uribe “Report” should listen to someone who, unlike the crude propagandist in the above exchange, actually knows something about Gaza, and speaks about it plainly…..
          http://www.alternet.org/world/noam-chomsky-nightmare-gaza
        2. Muttonbird15
          Does the obsession with the American election by some authors on this site point to their disinterest about important New Zealand matters?
          Are these authors political tragics first and socially responsible second?
          It certainly seems that way to me.
          Just saying that if you have the major players at the standard more concerned with US politics, Syria, and getting Andrew Little to apologise for the 4th Labour government, than actual NZ communities then I’d say there’s a problem.

        Not all Māori on board with Marama (Sept. 27, 2016)

        https://shalom.kiwi/2016/09/not-all-maori-on-board-with-marama/

        Green M.P. Marama Davidson’s involvement with the “Peace Boat” to Gaza is purportedly to raise awareness of the struggle of women in Gaza. However, Davidson has involved herself in one of the world’s most intractable conflicts without attempting to understand both sides of the situation.
        Implicit in Davidson’s stance is the assigning of blame to Israel without any recognition that it is, in fact, Hamas who is directly responsible for the plight of Palestinians in Gaza. Gaza is ruled by Hamas, a Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist organisation that does not recognise Israel and whose charter calls for genocide. Hamas is the political and administrative authority in Gaza and has the ability to improve life for its citizens, but chooses instead to pour millions of dollars of aid money into building terror tunnels (using child labour) and acquiring weapons. In spite of Israel’s limited capacity to improve the lives of Gazans, it sends thousands of truckloads of humanitarian aid into Gaza. In the first half of 2016, 88,800 trucks of goods were transferred, breaking the record for the number of deliveries into Gaza.
        Davidson has aligned herself with an organisation that is little more than a hate group. Kia Ora Gazaleader, Roger Fowler, has expressed support for a one-state solution (the dismantling of the world’s only Jewish state), has compared Israel to Islamic State, has publicly supported a “third intifada”, and has justified violence against Israeli civilians. This is not an organisation committed to peace and human rights.
        For Māori who oppose Kia Ora Gaza’s hatred of Israel, the co-opting of Te Reo Måori for their cause is deeply offensive. Historically, Māori have had strong connections with the Jewish people. Indeed the struggle of the Jews gave inspiration to many of our tīpuna (ancestors), and several indigenous prophetic movements in the 19th century were established on the Jewish model. The return of Jews to their ancient homeland has been an inspiring example for many indigenous peoples. Even though the Jewish people experienced expulsion and dispossession, they never abandoned their hope of return, and a small Jewish remnant kept ahi kā (continuous presence) in the land over many centuries of dispersal. The rebirth of Hebrew has been an inspiration for the revitalisation of Te Reo Māori in Aotearoa.
        Davidson’s oft-repeated statement that she stands in solidarity with the women of Gaza “as an indigenous woman” is disingenuous. This is not an indigenous struggle. It is a struggle of hard-line Islamic fundamentalists, who refuse to accept the existence of a Jewish state – anywhere. Since all Jews were forced to leave Gaza in 2005, Gazans have had the opportunity to do with the land what they choose. The former Jewish residents left behind a valuable horticultural infrastructure, which Gazans chose to destroy rather than exploit to their own betterment. Israel was forced to impose controls on its borders in order to restrict the flow of weapons into Gaza. The last decade has proven the necessity of those measures. Having gained control of Gaza, Hamas now seeks to destroy Israel. This is the clear message of “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free” – a call for the ethnic-cleansing of Jews from the entire region that is also echoed in the foundational document of Hamas.
        Many have had valid concerns about this trip and what it stands for, but attempts to raise those concerns with Davidson were met with a steadfast refusal to engage. Her mind was made up. While single-mindedness may be admirable in a struggle for a just cause, it is far from clear that Davidson’s mission is just or is about human rights. When challenged over the human rights of homosexuals and the place of women in Gazan society, Marama refused to comment. She would only tolerate views that criticised Israel or praised her participation in the flotilla.
        It is disappointing that Davidson chose to disregard these concerns and forged ahead with her mission, on the other side of the world. One would think there would be plenty of women’s and human rights struggles to keep her fully engaged much closer to home. Albeit, these do not offer the excitement of overseas travel or the spotlight of international media. Saddest of all is that for all the money and energy spent on this venture, nothing tangible will be achieved for the women of Gaza.

        Sheree Trotter
        Sheree Trotter is of Te Arawa descent. She is currently completing an M.A. in History at the University of Auckland.