Saturday, 30 December 2017
How other musicians handled the pressure to perform or not in Israel (26 Dec. 2017)
Lorde cancelled her show in Israel over politics. Here's how other musicians have handled it
26 Dec, 2017 3:52pm
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11966054
In Israel, even concerts are political. For international superstars, deciding whether or not to show up might imply what side you're on: Israel's or the Palestinians'. And over the weekend, the singer Lorde became the latest musician to cancel a performance in Tel Aviv after fans pressured her to do so.
Last week, two of Lorde's fans in New Zealand - one of them Jewish and the other Palestinian - published an open letter to the Grammy-award-winning singer, asking her to cancel a performance planned for June 5, 2018. It cited "the Israeli government's policies of oppression" and "apartheid," and said that "we believe that an economic, intellectual and artistic boycott is an effective way of speaking out against these crimes."
The letter added that "playing in Tel Aviv will be seen as giving support to the policies of the Israeli government, even if you make no comment on the political situation."
The letter did not specifically mention the boycott, divestment and sanctions - or BDS - movement, but the views expressed within it are in line with that Palestinian-led campaign. Since 2005, the BDS movement has urged academic and governmental institutions, companies, musicians and others to avoid visiting Israel and buying its products with the goal of getting Israel to end its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip and allow Palestinians to return to places they left when Israel was created in 1948.
At first Lorde responded to the letter by saying she would reconsider the concert date, and by Sunday, she said in a statement, "I've received an overwhelming number of messages and letters and have had a lot of discussions with people holding many views, and I think the right decision at this time is to cancel the show." She added that she's "truly sorry to reverse my commitment to come play for you. I hope one day we can all dance."
The production company that was to put on the concert said that tickets would be refunded within 14 days, and Israel's culture minister asked Lorde to reconsider.
In recent years, several artists have canceled tour dates in Israel, either for political reasons or because of ongoing violence. In 2010, the Pixies decided not to perform after the Israeli military raided a Turkish ship bringing aid for the Gaza Strip, an operation that killed nine people. (The band later played in Israel in 2014.) Elvis Costello also canceled two shows in Israel in 2010, saying that "sometimes silence in music is better than adding to the static."
In 2014, when Israel was in a 50-day war with the Hamas-governed Gaza, several artists - including Lana Del Rey, Neil Young and the Backstreet Boys - postponed or canceled shows.
For as many artists who cancel shows in Israel, there are others who face criticism and still press on with their tour dates. In 2014, The Post's Ruth Eglash noted that, since the BDS effort started, Rihanna, Alicia Keys, Madonna, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Jethro Tull and the Red Hot Chili Peppers all kept their concert dates in Israel despite public pressure to cancel them. Once on stage, these megastars sometimes use their microphones for more than their lyrics. For example, during a 2012 performance in Tel Aviv, Madonna, who isn't Jewish but follows the Jewish mystical practice of Kabbalah, wrapped herself in an Israeli flag and made a plea to rise above ego, religion and national allegiance to forge peace in the Middle East. "You can't be a fan of mine and not want peace in the world," she said.
Some artists keep their shows in order to make a statement critical of Israel. In 2006, Pink Floyd's Roger Waters moved a performance from Tel Aviv to a village jointly formed by Arabs and Israelis. On that trip, Waters traveled throughout the West Bank and to the wall separating it from Israel, which he tagged with graffiti of his song lyrics:"We don't need no thought control."
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Waters has since urged other artists not to perform in Israel. In a 2016 interview with the Independent, he said that the music industry "has been particularly recalcitrant in even raising a voice" against Israel. "I'm hoping to encourage some of them to stop being frightened and to stand up and be counted, because we need them," Waters added.
Was Max Ritchie’s speech the dumbest in radio history? (The Panel, RNZ National, Monday 7 December 2015)
“Safeguarded eavesdropping by the state is a price we might have to pay for our safety.”—was Max Ritchie’s speech the dumbest in radio history?
The Panel, RNZ National, Monday 7 December 2015
Jim Mora, Ali Jones, Max Ritchie
The Panel, RNZ National, Monday 7 December 2015
Jim Mora, Ali Jones, Max Ritchie
Just before the 4:30 news, host Jim Mora called for opinions about the SAFE advertisement that appeared in the Guardian yesterday. [1] Predictably, both Ali Jones and Max Ritchie reiterated the Federated Farmers/Fonterra corporate line and upbraided Hans Kriek for not talking enough to farmers and for (according to Ritchie) pushing his vegetarian lifestyle on everyone else. Ritchie should have left his comments at that, but, foolishly, he then went on to quote one of the less respected, crazier people to have appeared on the Panel….
MAX RITCHIE: I heard on the radio earlier that professor of agriculture that frequently comes on your program, I forget what her name is.
JIM MORA: Jacqueline Rowarth.
MAX RITCHIE: That’s the one. Well, she said that our animal welfare standards are the best in the world.
Ritchie should have carried out due diligence. If he had, he would have quoted someone better than Jacqueline Rowarth, who has established herself alongside such notorious characters as Dov Bing, Ron Smith and Willem de Lange as one of the loopier academics to periodically slither out from under the rock of Waikato University. Jacqueline Rowarth blundered into our line of sight last year, when she came on to assure the Panel that there is no such thing as poverty in New Zealand, that it’s all in the minds of the poor, who actually don’t exist anyway, and that media reports of children without shoes were rubbish: it was nothing more than kids who just didn’t want to wear shoes. [2]
Endorsing a loopy provincial academic was bad enough, but there was worse to come from Max Ritchie. He announced grandly that his Soapbox piece after the news would be about “freedom”. In fact it turned out to be nothing more than a windy homily about how he is perfectly happy to prostrate himself to the state, which he trusts absolutely to do the right thing: “Safeguarded eavesdropping by the state is a price we might have to pay for our safety,” he intoned. He then went on, speaking as solemnly and as slowly as he could, to state that New Zealand doesn’t have a culture of heavy-handed persecution by the state, and that we could be perfectly confident if we did as he suggested, and surrendered all our rights to politicians and bureaucrats.
After he finished speaking, there was a pause. Jim Mora does have a tendency to make a glib wisecrack after one of his guests makes such a portentous statement, but this time he was obviously flabbergasted, and said nothing at all in response. Neither did Ali Jones. It was like they were hoping that what had just been said—in essence, “I am happy to be a slave, and so should all of us be happy to be slaves”—was a horrible phantasm, and would vanish into the ether if they just stayed silent.
Interestingly, five minutes after expressing his confidence in the benevolence of the state, Ritchie indulged in a lengthy whinge about being stopped by the police for speeding on Orakei Road on January 4th this year. “Utterly RIDICULOUS,” he growled, “I am not at ALL convinced that this is an appropriate way of policing!”
Perhaps Max Ritchie would not enjoy his voluntary enslavement as much as he thinks he would.
[1] http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/74783076/new-zealand-dairy-cruelty-claims-target-uk-consumer-in-guardian-ad-campaign
[2] http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23092014/#comment-895173
[2] http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23092014/#comment-895173
Macro30.1
Yep! Whenever I hear Jacqueline Rowarth on air – I switch off – Why is she always the go to gal whenever they want some input on rural matters? Ok that’s her job – but surely there are others less loopy? She posts on Pundit too from time to time
You do a great job for us M, I don’t know how you do it!Chooky30.2
+100 Morrissey…for stripping down what they say and critically examining itI also think Prof Rowarth is loopy…and a mouth piece for interests which are not necessarily farmers’….”Waikato University agribusiness professor Jacqueline Rowarth questioned whether New Zealand should be doing business with Russia.“We need to be looking carefully at the reasons others have stopped trading with Russia,” she said.“We stood up against the Springboks in 1981 because we didn’t like the way people were being treated.”Rowarth said New Zealand could experience “short-term gain, long-term pain” from continuing to send dairy products and other food to Russia.“There could be repercussions for other trade if we just say we’ll keep selling you our products,” she said..”..
Friday, 29 December 2017
Not everybody appreciates the charm and grace of Leighton Smith (18 Dec. 2013)
- “The young cow who was driving the car instructed me where to go.”
Clearly, not everybody appreciates the charm and grace of Leighton Smith
NewstalkZB, Wednesday 18 December 2013If you are stupid enough or bored enough or unfortunate enough to have been listening to NewstalkZB shortly before 11 o’clock this morning, you will have heard the following….LEIGHTON SMITH: Ummmmm, ahhhhhhhh. What is the most important human right? Ummmmmmmm. Tell me what you think. I’ll tell you what I think later. Ummmmmmm, ahhhhhhh…. Joan is on the line.
CALLER “JOAN”: It’s clear what the most important human right is, Leighton.
LEIGHTON SMITH: Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Okay, what is it?
CALLER “JOAN”: It’s quite clear what it is! The most important human right is the right to choose. I’m worried that these smart meters will let the government monitor my brain waves. It’s what the Bible says—
LEIGHTON SMITH: Ummmm, ahhhhhhhh, funnily enough, I’ve just been watching some stuff from America about that very thing. Ummmmmm, ahhhhhhh….. After the break, I’ll tell you what I believe the most important human right is.…..[Advertising break]…..LEIGHTON SMITH: Okay we’re back. Ummmmmmm, ahhhhhhhhh, the most important, ummmmmm, ahhhhhh, human right is the right to free speech. All the other human rights depend on it. Ummmmm, ahhhhhh….Smith droned on for several minutes, reading from an article in the scurrilous Newscorp rag The Australian. The item purported to be a defense of free speech, but was in fact just another attack against namby-pamby liberal panty-waists, and a demand for the right of people like Leighton Smith to call Muhammad Ali a “n*gger” on air, Tony Veitch to sneer at black tennis players as “monkeys” and for the likes of Paul Holmes to engage in foul-mouthed rants against “darkies”.Forlorn hope I know, but I decided to at least try to get Leighton Smith thinking by sending him the following email. Perhaps it will send him into an angry live-on-air denunciation of this writer, i.e. moi, as has occurred several times in the past….Free speech is good, but you are defending criminals like the Murdochs
Dear Leighton,You seem to be a little confused between the right to free speech and open reporting and the felonious and immoral practices of some media organizations—of which the Murdoch one is by far the worst but not the only one.And it is not at all helpful for your credibility that you have been repeatedly quoting from theAustralian, which is perhaps the most extreme and ideologically rabid of all Murdoch’s papers.Yours sincerely,
Morrissey Breen, Northcote PointSo far—it’s now 11:36 a.m.—he hasn’t had a go at me, but he has taken the opportunity to have a blast at a young woman with whom he was engaged in an unpleasant contretemps in an Auckland car park yesterday. It was apparently a traumatic experience for the great broadcaster…..LEIGHTON SMITH: The young cow who was driving the car instructed me where to go. This is the kind of aggression you’re getting! Mind you, that particular failure of a human being is like that 365 days of the year, no doubt!”Whatever happened to Christmas cheer?-
Morrissey23.1.1
Listening to Smith is beyond the call of duty.Somebody has to do it, Paul.By the way, he’s just signed off from today’s show with these words: “Fair and balanced—that’s me!”Paul23.1.1.1
On a related topic.
Neoliberal clique of the Labour Party show worrying support for right wing extremist Hosking on his new appointment to 7 Sharp.
Ms King pitched in, saying: “I’ll tell you what, it will improve it.”
Hosking replied: “Well, let us hope so, Annette. That is the aim.”Now he can bad mouth all opponents of the Great Leader in the morning on ZB and in the evening on TVNZ. And he’s being paid a million to get the results for his good mates at Sky City.the pigman23.1.1.1.1
No big fan of Annette King, but did you really expect her to sit there and listen to Steven Joyce “making all the jokes”?*shudders*
Tracey23.1.1.2
hopefully those who follow faux news will recognised that tag line for what it is… sarcasm.rhinocrates23.1.1.3
I salute your for your fortitude Morrissey. I try to lose weight by eating less, not throwing up. I hope that it doesn’t have that effect on you.
- re ‘listening to smith’....i mean..i do commentaries on questiontime..and watch breakast television....’cos someone has to’....but there is no fucken way i would go within a bulls’-roar of the likes of smith..or..or....and why bother..?..you may have some effect/influence from sniping at the likes of mora....but smith is rabid....he is over there in the colon craig corner....table-leg chewing his way thru life/the media....and i can’t see any point/positive-outcome in listening to his rancid-gnawing....phillip ure..
the pigman23.2
My girlfriend (now wife) used to drive a Japanese import with a radio that only picked up FM frequencies between 70.0 and 90.0, so NewstalkZB was as far as it would go. I have traumatic (but strangely fond) memory of dropping her off at work listening to that failure of a human being‘s bluster.Interesting that he’s now a staunch defender of the right to free speech. I have a vivid memory of him cutting off a left-wing caller who dared to mention the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights. That said, Leighton certainly exercised his right to free speech by continuing to abuse her and “pshaw” after he had cut her off.
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rhinocrates24
Bob Jones is not just an arsehole, he’s a lawbreaker:He’s not “ever so slightly” in breach of the law, and neither is The Herald:In both publishing Bob Jones’ confession of a criminal act and then deleting it, they are are an accessory to a crime by attempting to cover up evidence/a confession:SeeThe Herald has aided him in his commission of his crime.-
rhinocrates24.1.1
He’s rich, so he’ll get away with it. The Herald will keep publishing his verbal poison because it’s clickbait.If anyone pays money for The Herald, ask yourself what you’re paying for. If you are, you’re paying for scum who support rapists and delight in driving people to suicide. That is what you’re paying for, that is what you support. Look at their advertisers – do you support their sponsoring of rape apologists and people who drive others to kill themselves?Draco T Bastard24.1.1.1
He’s rich, so he’ll get away with it.Probably but that doesn’t stop a complaint being made and when he gets off everyone will know that the rules just don’t apply to the rich.
Colonial Viper24.2
Front page of the Herald (The Onion Edition) tomorrow morning: demanding that their own editors resign
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ianmac25
After reading the Herald Editorial on Brown it occurred to me that it might have the opposite effect from what they intend. When the 20 Councillors read it they have been given plenty of reasons why they must back off or they risk closing down effective management and damaging their own credibility in future elections.veutoviper25.1
Although I have resisted expressing an opinion on Brown, not being an Aucklander, I also think that the Herald editorial may have the opposite effect.While a quick look at the over 200 comments (and likes) on the editorial suggest a lot of people in agreement with it, the Herald also have had a poll going since about Saturday with over 17,000 response to date. The results currently are 27% in favour of Brown resigning; and 73% against.Sorry, I cannot seem to pick up a link, but here is a cut and past of the current results. The Poll is on the Herald’s main page.“Have your sayHerald poll
17200–17250 votesShould Len Brown remain mayor of Auckland?
Len Brown: I’m stayingYes 27%
No 73%”-
veutoviper25.1.1.1
My mistake – ignore my comments re poll. Had the referendum Yes and No firmly fixed in my mind.The Herald Poll 73% No supports both the editorial and the question “Should Len Brown remain as mayor of Auckland?”
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Tracey26
This made me think of some folk who post here…The whole episode is worth a watchjoe9027
Income inequality holding back the US economy.It’s hurting the U.S. economy.So says a majority of more than three dozen economists surveyed last week by The Associated Press. Their concerns tap into a debate that’s intensified as middle-class pay has stagnated while wealthier households have thrived.A key source of the economists’ concern: Higher pay and outsize stock market gains are flowing mainly to affluent Americans. Yet these households spend less of their money than do low- and middle-income consumers who make up most of the population but whose pay is barely rising.“What you want is a broader spending base,” says Scott Brown, chief economist at Raymond James, a financial advisory firm. “You want more people spending money.Colonial Viper28
Gen Lenhert (ret.), first commander of Guantanamo Bay detention facility calls for it to be shut downSays that the terrorists have successfully changed America, for the worse. Also says that he was given the ability to apply the Geneva Convention throughout his command there, regardless of what his civilian superiors may have said, and he did so.
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Leading thinker tries to explain the huge RWC crowds in England
The Panel, Radio NZ National, Monday 28 September 2015
Jim Mora, Gary McCormick, Wendyl Nissen
2. Scott “Sumo” Stevenson
3. Murray (“Too many boofhead Islanders in the team”) Deaker
4. Martin “Moron” Devlin
5. Doug (“That black PIG Mugabe!”) Golightly
6. “Sir” John (“Too many Darkies”) Graham
7. Wynne “Sensible” Gray
8. Andy (“Too many Darkies”) Haden
9. Jim “Kadaverous” Kayes
10. David (“Too many dark faces for my taste”) Kirk
11. Paul “Lackwit” Lewis
12. Willy (“Gwaham Henwy can just PISS OFF!”) Lose, AKA Wiwwy Wose
13. John (“Are there too many darkies?”) Matheson (R.I.P.)
14. John (“Second Fiddle”) McBeth
15. Graham “Moods” Moody (R.I.P.)
16. Chris “Rat Shit” Rattue
17. Andrew (“Nothing to do in Cardiff”) Saveloy
18. Tony (“It wasn’t really me who hospitalized my fiancĂ©e”) Veitch, AKA “Veitchy”
19. Nigel (How many times can I say “Opportunity”?) Yalden
20. Spiro (“Rugby is ballet, it’s opera, it’s Swiss watch-making”) Zavos